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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Torm" data-source="post: 3273349" data-attributes="member: 12706">To be completely honest, I would have to say that pretty much EVERY d20 Fantasy game I have run has been more directly Zork inspired than Dungeons and Dragons inspired. Sometimes with splashes of Star Wars d20 or whatever else seems like a good idea at the moment. And the experience is usually at least good - the less prep time I spend, it would seem, the better - and the players seem to enjoy it.I just read through the thread (okay, just pages 1 and 8 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":o" title="Eek!    :o"  data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":o" />) and I just wanted to let you know that I found this post fascinating. I won't argue or agree as to whether or not 3E is "D&D" - I've already admitted, above, that my own "D&D" isn't very pure, anyway, not that I care much - but I have to agree that you are entirely right about the name "D&D 3E" not making much sense. And I think what you laid out about it has been floating around in my head for quite some time, but never really clarified until I read that. Thanks!I agree with Umbran, though, that it was probably a strictly marketing decision, and I think it probably would have been accurate to call it AD&D 3rd Edition, as I definitely DO see enough continuity between the rules as my group was playing "2.5" right before 3E came out, and the rules of 3E itself, to think that would have been appropriate. But, hey, YMMV. And apparently does. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Personally, I keep waiting for Ultra Dungeons and Dragons (Super Deluxe Edition). THAT, my friends, is going to be off the hizzy."UD&D (SDE) is the only real Dungeons and Dragons. All others were shallow prototypes." - Diaglo, in 2017. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /></blockquote>

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