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What's the effect of high abilities on CR?
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<blockquote data-quote="Zappo" data-source="post: 1501004" data-attributes="member: 633"><p><a href="http://geocities.com/sovelior/srd/improvingMonsters.html" target="_blank">http://geocities.com/sovelior/srd/improvingMonsters.html</a></p><p> </p><p> There is an official rule, sorta. Monsters, by default, "spend" 15 point buy points on their stats, generally getting an array like 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11. This corresponds to average stats.</p><p> </p><p> Monsters that take levels in an NPC class should use the "nonelite array", ie 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8. Which is still worth 15 points, but they are more efficiently distributed. This is <em>not</em> enough to warrant a CR increase by itself, however.</p><p> </p><p> The MM says that the "elite array", which would be 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8, should be used for monsters which have PC classes. This corresponds to a 25 point buy, 10 more than the average, which is the same as standard PCs and warrants a +1 CR. However, it is only worth the +1 CR if you are <em>not</em> giving a PC class to the monster. Basically, the CR increase from having a PC class already assumes that you are using 25 points. I guess that's because many class abilities kinda assume that you have decent stats.</p><p> </p><p> From all of this mess, I figure that +10 points are less or more worth +1 CR. It's not exactly official, but it's as close as you'll get.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zappo, post: 1501004, member: 633"] [url]http://geocities.com/sovelior/srd/improvingMonsters.html[/url] There is an official rule, sorta. Monsters, by default, "spend" 15 point buy points on their stats, generally getting an array like 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11. This corresponds to average stats. Monsters that take levels in an NPC class should use the "nonelite array", ie 13, 12, 11, 10, 9, 8. Which is still worth 15 points, but they are more efficiently distributed. This is [i]not[/i] enough to warrant a CR increase by itself, however. The MM says that the "elite array", which would be 15, 14, 13, 12, 10, 8, should be used for monsters which have PC classes. This corresponds to a 25 point buy, 10 more than the average, which is the same as standard PCs and warrants a +1 CR. However, it is only worth the +1 CR if you are [i]not[/i] giving a PC class to the monster. Basically, the CR increase from having a PC class already assumes that you are using 25 points. I guess that's because many class abilities kinda assume that you have decent stats. From all of this mess, I figure that +10 points are less or more worth +1 CR. It's not exactly official, but it's as close as you'll get. [/QUOTE]
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