What's the formula for medium saves?

[John Q. Mayhem]

For good saves it's Level/2+2, for bad it's level/3. However, there are many products out there with Medium saves, starting at +1 or +0 and capping at +9. What's the formula for these?

 

[reanjr]

For good saves it's Level/2+2, for bad it's level/3. However, there are many products out there with Medium saves, starting at +1 or +0 and capping at +9. What's the formula for these?

I've never seen such a product, can you give a progression from beginning to end?

It might be 2/5 level as that would be right in between 1/2 and 1/3

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

The only thing I've seen with Medium saves is SWd20...even then, though, I don't know what the actual formula is.

 

[Crothian]

starts at one and goes up 2 every 5

1,2,2,2,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,6,6,7,7,8,8,8,9

 

[reanjr]

starts at one and goes up 2 every 5

1,2,2,2,3,3,4,4,4,5,5,6,6,6,7,7,8,8,8,9

W00t!! Good guess on my part.

 

[Crothian]

simple mathimatics

 

[reanjr]

simple mathimatics

True, but I didn't know the progression and so never checked to see if 2/5 would go from 1 to 9. I wasn't sure if they would use the geometric mean or the linear mean.

 

[John Q. Mayhem]

Thanks, all. Other products that have these saves: EoM[R] and AU.

EDIT: The Swashbuckler from CW and the Scout from CV have thinly disguised medium saves.

 

[Mercule]

Medium, or "average", saves are the mean of the Good and Poor saves. They really are "average".

There is no simple calculation for them ( ((L/2+2)+(L/3))/2 is not simple), but I believe there is an approximation that someone came up with.

 

[Henry]

To quote Andy Collins, when asked the same question by Johnathan Tweet:

"Err.... Formula?"




Actually, even 1 +(2/5)* level, round to nearest integer isn't right, is it? the chart delays the middle "plus" until the next level. Instead of 1,2,2,3,3,3 like it should, it's 1,2,2,2,3,3 instead.