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<blockquote data-quote="Number47" data-source="post: 27365" data-attributes="member: 84">Think that Summon spells are too weak? Let me point you to the Fiendish Dire Tiger. Average of 120 hit points. Speed 40 followed by a pounce for significant damage. Cold resistance 20. Fire resistance 20. Damage reduction 10/+3. Spell resistance 25. Not shabby at all for a 7th level spell! This bad boy can take out a whole troop of enemies and the duration should last until the end of the combat. Not to mention that he's so big and has reach that he can threaten a lot of people, allowing a lot of flanking. If this tank has one problem, it's that he has low intelligence and no language, so he cannot be directed precisely by the caster.Take a serious, hard look at some of these celestial-template and infernal-template creatures in the mid-summoning level. That template buys a lot!As for celestials liking to fight, hee hee. I have a very evil bad guy in my game that likes to summon celestials to fight for him. It amuses him to make the good guys fight each other.All this being said, however, I do agree that Summon Monster is a poor, poor choice for low level casters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Number47, post: 27365, member: 84"] Think that Summon spells are too weak? Let me point you to the Fiendish Dire Tiger. Average of 120 hit points. Speed 40 followed by a pounce for significant damage. Cold resistance 20. Fire resistance 20. Damage reduction 10/+3. Spell resistance 25. Not shabby at all for a 7th level spell! This bad boy can take out a whole troop of enemies and the duration should last until the end of the combat. Not to mention that he's so big and has reach that he can threaten a lot of people, allowing a lot of flanking. If this tank has one problem, it's that he has low intelligence and no language, so he cannot be directed precisely by the caster. Take a serious, hard look at some of these celestial-template and infernal-template creatures in the mid-summoning level. That template buys a lot! As for celestials liking to fight, hee hee. I have a very evil bad guy in my game that likes to summon celestials to fight for him. It amuses him to make the good guys fight each other. All this being said, however, I do agree that Summon Monster is a poor, poor choice for low level casters. [/QUOTE]

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