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Message: <blockquote data-quote="aramis erak" data-source="post: 7040816" data-attributes="member: 6779310">The most innovative game I've seen is the *Blood engine from John Wick; Houses of the Blooded was first, Blood and Honor second; 7th Sea 2E is clearly on the same design space, but not quite the same engine.See, you state your primary task, and everyone whose character is involved may join in the risk - by joining, you lose your PC immunity...On a risk, each player uses a Stat, and some other abilities, to generate a dice pool. You then divide that pool (d6's in the case of HotBlooded and B&H) between raises and rolls - the wager dice are set aside for the moment, everyone rolls their roll dice, totalling them; if you rolled under 10, lose all your raises. (John's term  is Wagers, but that's a bad term for it.) If you rolled over 10, you have some narrative say. If you had the highest roll total, you keep all your raises, otherwise, you keep half (round down, minimum 1 if you kept any). The high roller answers the question of the task; then, in descending roll order, each player with raises left makes a "Yes, and..." or a "Yes, but..." statement. If it does damage (or conditions), the number of damage steps is the raises cost; if it affects a stat or reputation, again, the cost is the double the number of points; if it's a conditional, or a discrete action, it's one raise. Once each person with raises has added, go back to the top roll with remaining raises, and another pass of spending raises. You can only make one statement per pass through...It sounds complicated, but really isn't.Joe, Fred, and Mark are playing Samurai, and Joe wants to make a caricature of the neighboring Daimyō while he's visiting in court...Specifically, "I want to make an embarrassing but honest lampoon painting of him... to shame him into treating his peasants better."Fred, whose character is in scene, wants to kibbitz, "make suggestions"Mark, who owes that Daimyō a favor, is opposed to this.So, Joe cobbles up a 10d pool, counting the 2d from the Daimyō's reputation, "Peasant Killer"...Fred only gets 6 dice in his pool.Mark cobbles together 7d in his poolJoe splits 5 rolls and 5 raises.Mark splits 4 rolls & 3 raises.Fred wants to ensure he gets to use them, so puts 5 in the roll, and only 1 raise.They roll: Joe 2+2+2+5+5=16Mark 4+6+6+4=20Fred: 1+3+3+3+4=14Mark won, so keeps his 3 raises.Joe lost, but still broke 10, so keeps half of 5, which is 2.Fred can't lose his last raise as he rolled over 10, so has 1.The order is Mark, then Joe, then Fred.Mark says, "It fails to convince him" (the original task), "And it gives Nobu a reputation as «too direct»" (spends a raise)Joe, spotting an opportunity, "But he's pleased with it." And spends a raise.Fred, unable to do any damage to his rep, adds, "And won't retaliate" just to put the safety space on...Mark, noting a chance to turn things, "His Karo, however, is Furious," holds up 2 fingers, and adds a condition to the Karo's sheet, while spending 2 raises. Mark's out of raises.Joe, still having 2 raises, spends them to add 1 to his "satiricist" rep.Fred has no raises, so doesn't count.No raises left, so end of risk.Note that any character whose player participates can be affected by anyone in the risk. Zero immunity, save for the "no contradictions"...Any NPC in the scene or targeted (or closely tangential) is also subject to add ons in a risk. Non-participating PCs have immunity, but can waive it if they wish.Fred and Joe are dueling. Fred has 4 dice, Joe 5. The GM, playing their Sensei, has 12d...Split is fred  3 and 1, joe 3 and 2, Sensei 3 and 9...Fred: 256 = 13, keeps his 1 raiseJoe: 534=12, Joe keeps half his 2 raises, or 1...Sensei 423= 9 - FAIL - loose all 9 raises.Note that Katanas are special. They kill anyone with one raise, unless some third party spends one to describe how it didn't...Fred: "I lose the duel," picks up a risk die, sets it aside, "Because the Sensei took my blade instead."Joe, with his one raise adds, "And I hit you."Fred's character and the sensei are both dead. No one had any raises left to convert the katana autokill to damage levels. The innovation it presents is controlling who picks the outcome, not rolling for success/failure.</blockquote>

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