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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 3169892" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>I don't really understand what this phrase means but a few concerns arise immediately:</p><p></p><p>(a) I don't know what you mean by "colonial" here. If you are thinking in terms of colony as a political relationship, such relationships are not characteristic of the medieval period. There is a Greek model of colonialism, a baroque model and a modern model. But the structure of medieval societies effectively precludes colony as a relationship to authority. </p><p></p><p>If you mean colonial in the sense of colonizing new territory, previously unoccupied or only occupied by semi- or non-sedentary groups, that is a whole other thing again. In this case there is no such thing as a colony as a distinct legal, administrative or social reality; "colony" is simply descriptive of the kind of settlement.</p><p></p><p>(b) I don't know what you mean by "mission" either. Do you mean a religious mission for the purpose of converting a surrounding population?It sounds to me like you are conceiving of something like the 16th century Spanish Council of the Indies. Such an institution is baroque/early modern and most emphatically not medieval in character. If you have such a body, you need to ask yourself: in what way is your game medieval?This cannot be done in a medieval society. Only absolutist or despotic states can pull off something like this. One of the things characteristic of medieval societies is an inability to extract tribute efficiently or regularly from the regions constituting an empire.</p><p></p><p>I really think you need to clarify what you mean by "medieval;" I don't think the word means the same thing to you that it is meaning to me. Your world sounds to me like an <em>ancien regime</em> absolutist place inspired by history in the 16th to 18th centuries not the 6th to 15th.Again, I suspect you are using the word "liberal" in a different way than I am. Liberals in our world emerged in the 18th and 19th centuries to challenge absolutism.Patriarchal governance is typically something that is <em>reflected in</em> law rather than <em>created by</em> law.Of what?I don't understand your use of quotation marks in this paragraph and fear that I am missing your meaning by not understanding how you are deploying them.</p><p></p><p>And that's my general problem with what you have written. You appear to be describing a set of events and relationships that evoke 18th century Europe and not the medieval world at all. So I don't know what advice to offer you. Should I offer you advice on how to design an 18th century late baroque absolutist empire?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 3169892, member: 7240"] I don't really understand what this phrase means but a few concerns arise immediately: (a) I don't know what you mean by "colonial" here. If you are thinking in terms of colony as a political relationship, such relationships are not characteristic of the medieval period. There is a Greek model of colonialism, a baroque model and a modern model. But the structure of medieval societies effectively precludes colony as a relationship to authority. If you mean colonial in the sense of colonizing new territory, previously unoccupied or only occupied by semi- or non-sedentary groups, that is a whole other thing again. In this case there is no such thing as a colony as a distinct legal, administrative or social reality; "colony" is simply descriptive of the kind of settlement. (b) I don't know what you mean by "mission" either. Do you mean a religious mission for the purpose of converting a surrounding population?It sounds to me like you are conceiving of something like the 16th century Spanish Council of the Indies. Such an institution is baroque/early modern and most emphatically not medieval in character. If you have such a body, you need to ask yourself: in what way is your game medieval?This cannot be done in a medieval society. Only absolutist or despotic states can pull off something like this. One of the things characteristic of medieval societies is an inability to extract tribute efficiently or regularly from the regions constituting an empire. I really think you need to clarify what you mean by "medieval;" I don't think the word means the same thing to you that it is meaning to me. Your world sounds to me like an [i]ancien regime[/i] absolutist place inspired by history in the 16th to 18th centuries not the 6th to 15th.Again, I suspect you are using the word "liberal" in a different way than I am. Liberals in our world emerged in the 18th and 19th centuries to challenge absolutism.Patriarchal governance is typically something that is [i]reflected in[/i] law rather than [i]created by[/i] law.Of what?I don't understand your use of quotation marks in this paragraph and fear that I am missing your meaning by not understanding how you are deploying them. And that's my general problem with what you have written. You appear to be describing a set of events and relationships that evoke 18th century Europe and not the medieval world at all. So I don't know what advice to offer you. Should I offer you advice on how to design an 18th century late baroque absolutist empire? [/QUOTE]
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