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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7518011" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Regarding this...</p><p></p><p>"There's only ever a roll if the outcome is uncertain. The DM can decide yes or no without a formula. That's part of the rules."</p><p></p><p>The key thing about 5e (not unique to 5e) is that there will not usually be a formula but instead a guideline and a circumstance. These are used by the GM to set the difficulties not variables for a formula of all things.</p><p></p><p>For bribery, it would depend on so msny factors its hard to see a formula thats not this way and manageable.</p><p></p><p>How satisfied is the mark with their circumstance? Hoe afriad is the mark of punishment?</p><p>Is the mark vulnerable to this approach due to moral failing, ill treatment, poor pay or other unexpected need (many or all could be alteady known, discovered or even setup by the PCs?)</p><p>What is the nature of the act? Does it break some other code of the mark to break this or align with one?</p><p>What social or economic strata are we working at?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Many of these add to the basic DC determination and the amount of the bribe and nature of the approach may allow advantage or disad - but where that value is will vary with all the factors above.</p><p></p><p>Example - enough to make a significant improvement (rebuild the burned out barn or fine marble headstone for dead son) for a one time risky act is minimum. But, an amount able to make that improvement and more (also buy neighboring parcel, get family moved to safer richer land or raise/rezz the dead son) boosts to advantage.</p><p></p><p>Thats the strength of the guidelines and choice over gazillions of set DC approach. Fewer formulas, more interactions that matter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7518011, member: 6919838"] Regarding this... "There's only ever a roll if the outcome is uncertain. The DM can decide yes or no without a formula. That's part of the rules." The key thing about 5e (not unique to 5e) is that there will not usually be a formula but instead a guideline and a circumstance. These are used by the GM to set the difficulties not variables for a formula of all things. For bribery, it would depend on so msny factors its hard to see a formula thats not this way and manageable. How satisfied is the mark with their circumstance? Hoe afriad is the mark of punishment? Is the mark vulnerable to this approach due to moral failing, ill treatment, poor pay or other unexpected need (many or all could be alteady known, discovered or even setup by the PCs?) What is the nature of the act? Does it break some other code of the mark to break this or align with one? What social or economic strata are we working at? Many of these add to the basic DC determination and the amount of the bribe and nature of the approach may allow advantage or disad - but where that value is will vary with all the factors above. Example - enough to make a significant improvement (rebuild the burned out barn or fine marble headstone for dead son) for a one time risky act is minimum. But, an amount able to make that improvement and more (also buy neighboring parcel, get family moved to safer richer land or raise/rezz the dead son) boosts to advantage. Thats the strength of the guidelines and choice over gazillions of set DC approach. Fewer formulas, more interactions that matter. [/QUOTE]
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