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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 3370291" data-attributes="member: 22779">Well, the classic myth and legend has been nailed nicely, howzabout fantasy lit as well?Frodo could easily be said to have died before he got to Rivendell and was raised.&nbsp; Not exactly right, but, not a bad stab mechanically either.The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe has all sorts of people being brought back to life by Lucy's potion.The Princess Bride has Miracle Max.&nbsp; How many stories, movies, cartoons etc. show the dead hero/chick/whatever being cried over by the protagonist, only to sit up when the tear is shed?This ignores the actual mechanics of the game.&nbsp; Family is dead?&nbsp; Bodies burned and the ashes scattered?&nbsp; Now you need True Res.&nbsp; While one is certainly possible, let's see you pony up for four or five of them.&nbsp; Never mind finding that 17th level priest capable of casting the spell for you in the first place.Killing the king?&nbsp; Hrm, feed the body to a Barghest and now you cannot raise them.&nbsp; Trap the Soul (hey, a king makes some powerful enemies) completely negates raising.&nbsp; Kidnap the king, sit him in front of a medusa until he turns to stone.&nbsp; No res possible.&nbsp; Rend the Sovereign Soul from Relics and Rituals makes Res virtually impossible.&nbsp; Gate in something that kidnaps the king and takes him to whatever plane you want to keep him on for eternity.&nbsp; Bring along a level draining undead when you assassinate, drain him down to 1 HD, whack his Con down with something else, THEN kill him.&nbsp; The list for getting around Res is lengthy and easily plausible.&nbsp; Honestly, I find this argument against Resurrection to be rather lacking in imagination.&nbsp; There are a plethora of methods for getting around Res just in the SRD, never mind other sources.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 3370291, member: 22779"] Well, the classic myth and legend has been nailed nicely, howzabout fantasy lit as well? Frodo could easily be said to have died before he got to Rivendell and was raised. Not exactly right, but, not a bad stab mechanically either. The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe has all sorts of people being brought back to life by Lucy's potion. The Princess Bride has Miracle Max. How many stories, movies, cartoons etc. show the dead hero/chick/whatever being cried over by the protagonist, only to sit up when the tear is shed? This ignores the actual mechanics of the game. Family is dead? Bodies burned and the ashes scattered? Now you need True Res. While one is certainly possible, let's see you pony up for four or five of them. Never mind finding that 17th level priest capable of casting the spell for you in the first place. Killing the king? Hrm, feed the body to a Barghest and now you cannot raise them. Trap the Soul (hey, a king makes some powerful enemies) completely negates raising. Kidnap the king, sit him in front of a medusa until he turns to stone. No res possible. Rend the Sovereign Soul from Relics and Rituals makes Res virtually impossible. Gate in something that kidnaps the king and takes him to whatever plane you want to keep him on for eternity. Bring along a level draining undead when you assassinate, drain him down to 1 HD, whack his Con down with something else, THEN kill him. The list for getting around Res is lengthy and easily plausible. Honestly, I find this argument against Resurrection to be rather lacking in imagination. There are a plethora of methods for getting around Res just in the SRD, never mind other sources. [/QUOTE]

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