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<blockquote data-quote="ruleslawyer" data-source="post: 3371047" data-attributes="member: 1757">Now who's being cocky? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />In myth, legend, and fantasy literature, coming back from the dead is a big deal. Aesclapius is punished by the gods for bringing a dead man back to life... and is half-divine to boot in any case, being the son of the god of healing, no less. Isis's resurrection of Osiris is central to Egyptian mythology, in the same way that Christ's resurrection from the dead is central to Christian theology. In Norse mythology, the efforts required are even more striking. Even the king of the gods, Odin, cannot bring his son back from Niflheim without an effort that proves impossible until the end and remaking of the world. Please cite that one for me. Hercules is brought to live among the gods after he dons the poisoned robe, but a) is a demigod, creating the annoying problem of being unable to die despite the fact that he's in great pain, and b) doesn't really &quot;die&quot; in the first place. Rather, he gets DvR 1, in a sense.In a fundamentally different form. Reincarnation is absolutely, positively NOT &quot;raise dead,&quot; any more than the Christian concept of the resurrection of souls at the Rapture is. That analogy is fundamentally flawed.I think the point that Delta is trying to make is that waving one's hands and raising someone from the dead without real consequences *is* antithetical to the vast majority of mythological and legendary themes. Most resurrection myths exist precisely to suggest to us how important and vast death is, and to promise something greater and more mystical that endures beyond the body. Raising the dead is a lot more like the super-EMT situation mentioned earlier.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ruleslawyer, post: 3371047, member: 1757"] Now who's being cocky? :) In myth, legend, and fantasy literature, coming back from the dead is a [i]big deal[/i]. Aesclapius is punished by the gods for bringing a dead man back to life... and is half-divine to boot in any case, being the son of the god of healing, no less. Isis's resurrection of Osiris is central to Egyptian mythology, in the same way that Christ's resurrection from the dead is central to Christian theology. In Norse mythology, the efforts required are even more striking. Even the king of the gods, Odin, cannot bring his son back from Niflheim without an effort that proves impossible until the end and remaking of the world. Please cite that one for me. Hercules is brought to live among the gods after he dons the poisoned robe, but a) is a demigod, creating the annoying problem of being unable to die despite the fact that he's in great pain, and b) doesn't really "die" in the first place. Rather, he gets DvR 1, in a sense. [i]In a fundamentally different form.[/i] Reincarnation is absolutely, positively NOT "raise dead," any more than the Christian concept of the resurrection of souls at the Rapture is. That analogy is fundamentally flawed. I think the point that Delta is trying to make is that waving one's hands and raising someone from the dead without real consequences *is* antithetical to the vast majority of mythological and legendary themes. Most resurrection myths exist precisely to suggest to us how important and vast death is, and to promise something greater and more mystical that endures beyond the body. Raising the dead is a lot more like the super-EMT situation mentioned earlier. [/QUOTE]

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