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<blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 5842197" data-attributes="member: 3424">After thinking about this issue, I have decided that I would like save or die better if there was always a fairly easily accomplished way to avoid having to make that potentially lethal save that causes some inconvenience to the PC. In other words, I want the threat of save or die to force the PCs to fight under conditions that they would normally never subject themselves to, but I don't want the actuality of a failed save and a dead PC.So, I want PCs to blindfold themselves before fighting a medusa. I want them stuffing cloth in their ears before facing a banshee. If some undead horror has an aura of life draining that forces anyone who ends his turn next to it to save or die, I want to see PCs scrambling away from it every time it gets close.Of course, this gives save or die a few prerequisites: the effect must be telegraphed, so that the PCs can readily recognize the danger, the counter must be obvious, so the PCs don't do the wrong thing by mistake, and the ability needs to be &quot;warmed up&quot; so that the PCs will always have at least one round to react (no surprise round deaths, please).That, for me, would give me all the fun of save or die with none of the downsides.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FireLance, post: 5842197, member: 3424"] After thinking about this issue, I have decided that I would like save or die better if there was always a fairly easily accomplished way to avoid having to make that potentially lethal save that causes some inconvenience to the PC. In other words, I want the threat of save or die to force the PCs to fight under conditions that they would normally never subject themselves to, but I don't want the actuality of a failed save and a dead PC. So, I want PCs to blindfold themselves before fighting a medusa. I want them stuffing cloth in their ears before facing a banshee. If some undead horror has an aura of life draining that forces anyone who ends his turn next to it to save or die, I want to see PCs scrambling away from it every time it gets close. Of course, this gives save or die a few prerequisites: the effect must be telegraphed, so that the PCs can readily recognize the danger, the counter must be obvious, so the PCs don't do the wrong thing by mistake, and the ability needs to be "warmed up" so that the PCs will always have at least one round to react (no surprise round deaths, please). That, for me, would give me all the fun of save or die with none of the downsides. [/QUOTE]

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