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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RangerWickett" data-source="post: 487135" data-attributes="member: 63">Well, for the record I was just joking about the fiendwurm part.Anyway, the game (the finale of my campaign) went kaput for reasons totally unrelated to badguy power level.  The fight was great fun, very dramatic, but then my players and I crapped out on the ending.  Dang, I hate players who can't be heroic even once in their life, when you go to a lot of effort to give them a chance to be-, heck, even direct events so that from a narrative standpoint it'd be incredibly moving if they finally overcame their own failings and were noble, just for once.But no, it didn't happen.  One of the PCs' father was a knight named Galad, and he was killed 25 years ago by another member of the knighthood named Marinus.  Marinus thought Galad had been charmed by a sorceress (in truth Galad and the sorceress were in love), and so Marinus tried to kill the sorceress, but in the fight, the Galad gave his life to save the woman he loved.  Classic, tragic case of accidental death, but the PC in question grew up hoping he'd have a chance to take his revenge.In this last game (we'll ignore the other plot elements, which did go off without a hitch), the PC thinks he finally has a chance to take revenge against Marinus.  The main villainess and leader of the bad guys promises the PC a chance at revenge if he'll join their side, and then lures Marinus to them.  The PC is at least smart enough to know that he should kill the villainess, since she has her own evil plans, so he plays along.  Marinus is brought in, and when he sees the PC, he thinks that he's about to be killed, so he insults him.  However, by this time the PC has lulled the villainess into a sense of security, and when he's supposed to kill Marinus, instead he attacks the villainess.In the confusion, the other PCs manage to make an appearance and they join the fight, as does Marinus, who also wants to stop the villainess.  After a long and cool fight scene where lots of second-string villains get their come-uppance, finally the PC in question manages to kill the villainess.  Huzzah, right?  Hurray for the heroes, for evil is thwarted.Then, Marinus arrives, injured from the fight where he saved several PCs' lives.  He sees the main PC standing over the villain, and hesitantly says that it had been a misunderstanding, and that they don't have to fight each other.  The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and for at least a little while they were able to work together to save the day.There is no one else around, since everyone else is tending to the wounded in other rooms.  The PC nods quietly, and says they should go help the others.  And then when Marinus turns around, he kills him.Horrible ending.  Damn.  I dunno, I never seem to be able to end a campaign well.  I don't think that, as a DM, it's too much to ask for the PCs to be a little upstanding when it counts.  That ending . . . ugh, it just ruins the whole game for me.Should've just killed them all with the fiendwurm.</blockquote>

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