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<blockquote data-quote="Chikiko Saotome" data-source="post: 7154106" data-attributes="member: 6877887"><p>So let me bring up a MAJOR factor that none of us are really taking into account as it has a pretty HUGE impact on these spells and can change that quote unquote most useless spell in the game. What is the factor? your SPELL CASTING CLASS. depending on the class you play at what options that class gives you and takes away from you, it make some spells complete trash and for other class sub-optimal or good in certain conditions. You say for example true strike would be better as a bonus spell? well if your playing a wizard then yes it sucks because your basically wasting a turn to set yourself up next round and that's all you can likely do that round. Now if your playing a sorcerer, that changes things. Using quicken spell you can cast true strike and then cast another spell with an attack role like chromatic orb or ice knife. another possibility is for eldritch knights. they have the ability to cast a cantrip and then make a weapon attack as a bonus action. Another possibility is a multiclass character like a rogue, monk, or any other class that has bonus action abilities. If by chance any if any of these characters also happen to have taken the martial adept feat they can then add extra damage, actions, and/or conditions with that attack which makes it quite nice. So its likely useless for a wizard? yes probably, is it the most useless spell in the game for everyone? not really.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As for witchbolt, lightning sorcerers can add extra damage to that spell since it does lightning damage, they can also twin the intial cast to attack two creatures and if they want they can quicken spells on additional turns to make attacks as bonus actions allowing them to do more damage since WB deal damage automatically every round after the initial attack.</p><p></p><p>So yes there may be better choices but its not completely useless for everyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chikiko Saotome, post: 7154106, member: 6877887"] So let me bring up a MAJOR factor that none of us are really taking into account as it has a pretty HUGE impact on these spells and can change that quote unquote most useless spell in the game. What is the factor? your SPELL CASTING CLASS. depending on the class you play at what options that class gives you and takes away from you, it make some spells complete trash and for other class sub-optimal or good in certain conditions. You say for example true strike would be better as a bonus spell? well if your playing a wizard then yes it sucks because your basically wasting a turn to set yourself up next round and that's all you can likely do that round. Now if your playing a sorcerer, that changes things. Using quicken spell you can cast true strike and then cast another spell with an attack role like chromatic orb or ice knife. another possibility is for eldritch knights. they have the ability to cast a cantrip and then make a weapon attack as a bonus action. Another possibility is a multiclass character like a rogue, monk, or any other class that has bonus action abilities. If by chance any if any of these characters also happen to have taken the martial adept feat they can then add extra damage, actions, and/or conditions with that attack which makes it quite nice. So its likely useless for a wizard? yes probably, is it the most useless spell in the game for everyone? not really. As for witchbolt, lightning sorcerers can add extra damage to that spell since it does lightning damage, they can also twin the intial cast to attack two creatures and if they want they can quicken spells on additional turns to make attacks as bonus actions allowing them to do more damage since WB deal damage automatically every round after the initial attack. So yes there may be better choices but its not completely useless for everyone. [/QUOTE]
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