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<blockquote data-quote="embee" data-source="post: 8943056" data-attributes="member: 7026827"><p><rant></p><p></p><p>AOTC, which summarizes in one scene how formulaic and stupid Star Wars had become. </p><p></p><p>That scene is, of course, the diner scene. Know what other movie featured Star Wars mashed up with a 50's style diner in space? Spaceballs. Good job, Lucas! You cribbed from a movie that had made fun of your schtick more than a decade prior and that movie did a better job with the concept. I mean, the Spaceballs diner even had the Millenium Falcon parked out front!</p><p></p><p>In the words of John Hurt's cameo, "Oh no... not again!"</p><p></p><p>The movie was terrible. Utterly terrible.</p><p></p><p>My dishonorable mentions are Abrams' gruesome twosome. TFW for being a shameless ripoff - oh, I'm sorry JJ - an <em>homage</em>!. Sorry but it was an uninspired beat-for-beat copy. </p><p></p><p>And ROTS because it went out of its way to memory hole TLJ. TLJ, while deeply flawed, had some amazing moments. Who are Rey's parents? Nobody! Deal with it! The Jedi are deeply problematic. Uh yeah... they'd take children away from their families, sometimes against the parents' wishes, and then indoctrinate them with their own fundamentalist worldview which would emotionally castrate them. </p><p></p><p>ROTS does away with that, completely erases a character from TLJ (Justice For Rose!), and then unashamedly says "Eff it! We're bringing back Palps because JJ can't think of anything better." Yes, Johnson killed Snoke, who would have been a cool Big Bad. But Darth Maul would have been a cool Big Bad too and he didn't make it out of Episode 1. </p><p></p><p>TLJ wasn't great but at least Rian Johnson was trying to do something new with the moribund material. </p><p></p><p>If I had an also also, it would be Solo. First off, enough with the American Graffiti worship in Star Wars. It's why there was the AOTC diner scene and it's why the stupid dice exist. Ron Howard, like milk, was a bad choice. If you want to move Star Wars forward, referencing 50s car culture ain't the way to do it. Sorry that new guard directors aren't safe. Then again, Coppola, Spielberg, and Lucas weren't safe when they got their start back in the 70s. </p><p></p><p>Bottom line is that Star Wars, even before Disney, had become more machine than man. The truth, from my point of view, is that Star Wars is, ultimately, a mediocre at best franchise with some really great stuff in it. </p><p></p><p></end rant></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="embee, post: 8943056, member: 7026827"] <rant> AOTC, which summarizes in one scene how formulaic and stupid Star Wars had become. That scene is, of course, the diner scene. Know what other movie featured Star Wars mashed up with a 50's style diner in space? Spaceballs. Good job, Lucas! You cribbed from a movie that had made fun of your schtick more than a decade prior and that movie did a better job with the concept. I mean, the Spaceballs diner even had the Millenium Falcon parked out front! In the words of John Hurt's cameo, "Oh no... not again!" The movie was terrible. Utterly terrible. My dishonorable mentions are Abrams' gruesome twosome. TFW for being a shameless ripoff - oh, I'm sorry JJ - an [I]homage[/I]!. Sorry but it was an uninspired beat-for-beat copy. And ROTS because it went out of its way to memory hole TLJ. TLJ, while deeply flawed, had some amazing moments. Who are Rey's parents? Nobody! Deal with it! The Jedi are deeply problematic. Uh yeah... they'd take children away from their families, sometimes against the parents' wishes, and then indoctrinate them with their own fundamentalist worldview which would emotionally castrate them. ROTS does away with that, completely erases a character from TLJ (Justice For Rose!), and then unashamedly says "Eff it! We're bringing back Palps because JJ can't think of anything better." Yes, Johnson killed Snoke, who would have been a cool Big Bad. But Darth Maul would have been a cool Big Bad too and he didn't make it out of Episode 1. TLJ wasn't great but at least Rian Johnson was trying to do something new with the moribund material. If I had an also also, it would be Solo. First off, enough with the American Graffiti worship in Star Wars. It's why there was the AOTC diner scene and it's why the stupid dice exist. Ron Howard, like milk, was a bad choice. If you want to move Star Wars forward, referencing 50s car culture ain't the way to do it. Sorry that new guard directors aren't safe. Then again, Coppola, Spielberg, and Lucas weren't safe when they got their start back in the 70s. Bottom line is that Star Wars, even before Disney, had become more machine than man. The truth, from my point of view, is that Star Wars is, ultimately, a mediocre at best franchise with some really great stuff in it. </end rant> [/QUOTE]
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