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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8943116" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Well, guess I'm going to say more about it!</p><p></p><p>TLJ is a terrible movie, and it has nothing to do with "subverting expectations". Its just plain bad.</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Hermit Luke: The problem is not innately that Luke is a crabby old hermit now (I didn't like the direction but I can respect its an interesting take to go for). Its the fact that this crabby old hermit had created a map to find his location (established in TFA). Considering that was the entire plot of the original movie, that's one damn large plot hole. Did Luke change his mind, did someone else make the map against Luke's wishes (maybe one of his students, which would have been an interesting take). They just let this drop, and its asinine.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Holdo: Holdo is a terrible general. She withholds key information from all of her people at a moment of extreme crisis and does nothing to assuage everyone's legitimate fears. And then they find out they are going to a specific location, and she STILL doesn't tell them about the base that's there. While the mutiny was stupidly handled, Poe's concerns were justified. Remember this isn't the imperial navy with rigorous martial discipline, these are REBELS. You want to keep them in line, you better damn well have a good plan. What's even worse was it was so DAMN easy to address this problem. All they had to do, was in one of Holdo's initial conversations, the concern of a spy on board is brought up. And holdo mentions that everything needs to stay under wraps until they find them. Boom....done, now you have a premise to be secretive that actually makes some sense. Without that, she just looks completely incompetent.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Holdo Manuever: Super cool until you realize it breaks Star Wars, they literally have to drop a line in TROS to explain away why we can't just do it...you know.....all the time.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The chase: Paint drying is more exciting, again this is the BEST plot star wars could come up with? There are people that would sell their first born to write a star wars movie, and this is the best they could come up with?<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Canto Bight: The most boring and pointless part in a pretty boring and pointless movie. This entire segment just doesn't need to exist.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Phasma: Setup to be a potential amazing foil to Finn, and they made such a big deal about a female stormtrooper in all the advertising. She has this cool badass armor, she had amazing potential. And they just drop her.....but kept Hux of all people. What a sodding waste of potential.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Saving" Finn at the end. Yes lets save Finn by crashing his ship and then have a nice long talk with him while there are literally walkers around shooting. Another dumb dopey scene.<br /> <br /> </li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Luke dying: I don't mind Luke dying. And Luke doing that force projection was solid, I actually really liked that. But then he just died of.... exhaustion? Again that's the BEST you can come up with for luke skywalker? </li> </ul><p></p><p>I actually will stop here as I'm just getting started and I feel like I could write 4 pages here. TLJ has some cool elements, it really does, but they are just mashed into the soup of hot steamy garbage. TLJ is a terrible movie.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8943116, member: 5889"] Well, guess I'm going to say more about it! TLJ is a terrible movie, and it has nothing to do with "subverting expectations". Its just plain bad. [LIST] [*]Hermit Luke: The problem is not innately that Luke is a crabby old hermit now (I didn't like the direction but I can respect its an interesting take to go for). Its the fact that this crabby old hermit had created a map to find his location (established in TFA). Considering that was the entire plot of the original movie, that's one damn large plot hole. Did Luke change his mind, did someone else make the map against Luke's wishes (maybe one of his students, which would have been an interesting take). They just let this drop, and its asinine. [*]Holdo: Holdo is a terrible general. She withholds key information from all of her people at a moment of extreme crisis and does nothing to assuage everyone's legitimate fears. And then they find out they are going to a specific location, and she STILL doesn't tell them about the base that's there. While the mutiny was stupidly handled, Poe's concerns were justified. Remember this isn't the imperial navy with rigorous martial discipline, these are REBELS. You want to keep them in line, you better damn well have a good plan. What's even worse was it was so DAMN easy to address this problem. All they had to do, was in one of Holdo's initial conversations, the concern of a spy on board is brought up. And holdo mentions that everything needs to stay under wraps until they find them. Boom....done, now you have a premise to be secretive that actually makes some sense. Without that, she just looks completely incompetent. [*]Holdo Manuever: Super cool until you realize it breaks Star Wars, they literally have to drop a line in TROS to explain away why we can't just do it...you know.....all the time. [*]The chase: Paint drying is more exciting, again this is the BEST plot star wars could come up with? There are people that would sell their first born to write a star wars movie, and this is the best they could come up with? [*]Canto Bight: The most boring and pointless part in a pretty boring and pointless movie. This entire segment just doesn't need to exist. [*]Phasma: Setup to be a potential amazing foil to Finn, and they made such a big deal about a female stormtrooper in all the advertising. She has this cool badass armor, she had amazing potential. And they just drop her.....but kept Hux of all people. What a sodding waste of potential. [*]"Saving" Finn at the end. Yes lets save Finn by crashing his ship and then have a nice long talk with him while there are literally walkers around shooting. Another dumb dopey scene. [*]Luke dying: I don't mind Luke dying. And Luke doing that force projection was solid, I actually really liked that. But then he just died of.... exhaustion? Again that's the BEST you can come up with for luke skywalker? [/LIST] I actually will stop here as I'm just getting started and I feel like I could write 4 pages here. TLJ has some cool elements, it really does, but they are just mashed into the soup of hot steamy garbage. TLJ is a terrible movie. [/QUOTE]
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