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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 8943468" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Snoke wasn't interesting, that is why he is a waste. He's a shadow in TFA, so we don't need to know too much. But we experience him in TLJ, and he's incredibly lame. His death is also comical to me.</p><p></p><p>Phasma honestly was worse than Boba Fett for 2 reasons:</p><p></p><p>Narratively: Phasma has a direct and personal connection to Finn as his superior officer. This could be a great foil for Finn to play off of, he's own personal villain. But no, they fight for 30 secs and then she gets killed by the environment.</p><p></p><p>Metagame: Beyond the movie, the Phasma character was massively hyped up in the interviews and media. So you go into the movie thinking she is going to be a major villain, not someone who could barely be considered a mini boss. </p><p></p><p>Just a total waste, she could have been used to bring out a lot more of Finn's character, instead of tossed to the scrap heap.</p><p></p><p>Overall Finn still gets very little growth in the movie, and the little bit he does in Canto does not excuse the garbage that is that like 45 minute chunk of the movie. They could have done all of that development in another scene without skipping a beat.</p><p></p><p>The problem is not suspension of disbelief, I have no issues with the idea that a hyperdrive ship can suicide ram into larger vessels. My issue is....than why don't they keep doing it? There is only one death star because it took massive resources to make....and even then the emperor still wanted a second one, because yeah if you can make giant space lasers, your going to make more than one.</p><p></p><p>Fighters in the star wars universe have been shown to be very very dangerous....which is why all major vessels have fighter escorts....makes perfect sense.</p><p></p><p>Now again this is where the movie could have salvaged it. Have the maneuver have been Holdo's plan the whole time. She picked a point in space previously, and had hyperdrive computers calculate it to the nth degree (taking weeks of calculations), she had been planning at some point to lure the enemy into a trap using this hyperdrive bomb idea, and was keeping it in the backpocket. So instead of them stupidly moving to a base, she was leading the empire into a trap she had been preparing. Holy crap, ok now this Holdo is a tactical badass, and the holdo maneuver becomes something awesome that can't be replicated, because it took precise planning and positioning, and not just something done on a whim. That's why this stuff is so frustrating to me, its actually not that hard to have your cake and eat it too. You can have your bad ass maneuver AND explain it rationally in a way that makes sense with your world building.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 8943468, member: 5889"] Snoke wasn't interesting, that is why he is a waste. He's a shadow in TFA, so we don't need to know too much. But we experience him in TLJ, and he's incredibly lame. His death is also comical to me. Phasma honestly was worse than Boba Fett for 2 reasons: Narratively: Phasma has a direct and personal connection to Finn as his superior officer. This could be a great foil for Finn to play off of, he's own personal villain. But no, they fight for 30 secs and then she gets killed by the environment. Metagame: Beyond the movie, the Phasma character was massively hyped up in the interviews and media. So you go into the movie thinking she is going to be a major villain, not someone who could barely be considered a mini boss. Just a total waste, she could have been used to bring out a lot more of Finn's character, instead of tossed to the scrap heap. Overall Finn still gets very little growth in the movie, and the little bit he does in Canto does not excuse the garbage that is that like 45 minute chunk of the movie. They could have done all of that development in another scene without skipping a beat. The problem is not suspension of disbelief, I have no issues with the idea that a hyperdrive ship can suicide ram into larger vessels. My issue is....than why don't they keep doing it? There is only one death star because it took massive resources to make....and even then the emperor still wanted a second one, because yeah if you can make giant space lasers, your going to make more than one. Fighters in the star wars universe have been shown to be very very dangerous....which is why all major vessels have fighter escorts....makes perfect sense. Now again this is where the movie could have salvaged it. Have the maneuver have been Holdo's plan the whole time. She picked a point in space previously, and had hyperdrive computers calculate it to the nth degree (taking weeks of calculations), she had been planning at some point to lure the enemy into a trap using this hyperdrive bomb idea, and was keeping it in the backpocket. So instead of them stupidly moving to a base, she was leading the empire into a trap she had been preparing. Holy crap, ok now this Holdo is a tactical badass, and the holdo maneuver becomes something awesome that can't be replicated, because it took precise planning and positioning, and not just something done on a whim. That's why this stuff is so frustrating to me, its actually not that hard to have your cake and eat it too. You can have your bad ass maneuver AND explain it rationally in a way that makes sense with your world building. [/QUOTE]
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