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<blockquote data-quote="PeterWeller" data-source="post: 4031877" data-attributes="member: 55795"><p>As usual, in threads like this, a number of misconceptions or misrepresentations arise about WoW.</p><p></p><p>First is the good old role argument. This one's been around for a while, and as a number of posters have already stated, is something that has always been implicit in D&D and other fantasy RPGs, no matter what the medium. More pertinent to the discussion, though, is the idea that D&D is designing classes to excel at a single role, and that this is how WoW does it. WoW actually doesn't do this. It's already been pointed out that classes depending on how you "spec" them can fulfill different roles. In addition, WoW has a number of classes that are defined as "hybrids," combining the abilities of other classes. To muddy the comparison further, nothing in the roles concept adequately considers the "pets" that certain classes utilize.</p><p></p><p>Something else that has been brought up as a point of comparison is 4E's apparent downplaying of out of combat abilities. In truth, out of combat abilities are an important, albeit secondary, part of a WoW character. Crafting, enhancing, and resource gathering are all useful and involve a significant portion of play time.</p><p></p><p>As to the OP's question, there has been eight years of game design since the release of 3E, and 4E reflects those eight years of change and "advance" in thought. WoW and other MMOs have been a big part of those eight years, and so they have had an influence, from the subliminal to the obvious, on 4E D&D.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PeterWeller, post: 4031877, member: 55795"] As usual, in threads like this, a number of misconceptions or misrepresentations arise about WoW. First is the good old role argument. This one's been around for a while, and as a number of posters have already stated, is something that has always been implicit in D&D and other fantasy RPGs, no matter what the medium. More pertinent to the discussion, though, is the idea that D&D is designing classes to excel at a single role, and that this is how WoW does it. WoW actually doesn't do this. It's already been pointed out that classes depending on how you "spec" them can fulfill different roles. In addition, WoW has a number of classes that are defined as "hybrids," combining the abilities of other classes. To muddy the comparison further, nothing in the roles concept adequately considers the "pets" that certain classes utilize. Something else that has been brought up as a point of comparison is 4E's apparent downplaying of out of combat abilities. In truth, out of combat abilities are an important, albeit secondary, part of a WoW character. Crafting, enhancing, and resource gathering are all useful and involve a significant portion of play time. As to the OP's question, there has been eight years of game design since the release of 3E, and 4E reflects those eight years of change and "advance" in thought. WoW and other MMOs have been a big part of those eight years, and so they have had an influence, from the subliminal to the obvious, on 4E D&D. [/QUOTE]
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