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<blockquote data-quote="hammymchamham" data-source="post: 661657" data-attributes="member: 4219"><p>All of this &quot;doing damage&quot; is covered in the attack rolls. If you hit, you do damage. No question about it. So a song bird has a 5% of hitting a high AC creature, and then you further penalize it by giving it a 10% chance of doing damage on its pathetic attempts to hit? I don't see how doing one damage is a bad thing. If you had a wizard player with 8 str who hit the goblin with his dagger, should the wizard player be penalized and deal 0 damage when the player rolls a 1 on the d4? of course not. Hit points are an abstract system. Imagine it however you want &quot;The song bird pecks you in the eye, take one damage&quot; or &quot;The song bird almost pecks your eye, but you're able to get your hand in the way and it nicks your pinky, take one damage&quot; or &quot;you're slightly fatigued as the bird attacks for face, take one damage.&quot; The mechanic is all the same.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="hammymchamham, post: 661657, member: 4219"] All of this "doing damage" is covered in the attack rolls. If you hit, you do damage. No question about it. So a song bird has a 5% of hitting a high AC creature, and then you further penalize it by giving it a 10% chance of doing damage on its pathetic attempts to hit? I don't see how doing one damage is a bad thing. If you had a wizard player with 8 str who hit the goblin with his dagger, should the wizard player be penalized and deal 0 damage when the player rolls a 1 on the d4? of course not. Hit points are an abstract system. Imagine it however you want "The song bird pecks you in the eye, take one damage" or "The song bird almost pecks your eye, but you're able to get your hand in the way and it nicks your pinky, take one damage" or "you're slightly fatigued as the bird attacks for face, take one damage." The mechanic is all the same. [/QUOTE]

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