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<blockquote data-quote="Nylanfs" data-source="post: 1234325" data-attributes="member: 10612"><p>Actually PCGen never recieved permission to publish the datasets for all the WotC non-OGL stuff (splatbooks, OA, FR stuff). The datasets were done and then released under the (admittantly mistaken) impression that WotC wouldn't have a problem. Bryan and Mynex were always trying to get ahold of Anthony Valterra to make sure it was okay, but they could never get ahold of each other </p><p></p><p>Then came GenCon '02 when they finally were able to get a chance to sit down and talk with him about it and WotC said that they didn't want that stuff being released for free. (And what ever you may have heard WotC never did send Bryan a official C&D order). They said that PCGen had to be OGL compliant and that then negotiations could take place about the non-OGL books. It took (I think) 40 days for PCGen to become OGL compliant, and the PCGen BoD decided to go ahead and make it's self d20 compliant also just to prove we could. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> If I'm wrong about how long it took I'm sure somebody else will correct me.</p><p></p><p>After that was done Bryan and Mynex and Lone Jedi sat down with WotC and started negotiations with them about the non-OGL booksets. And CMP was formed because as a brink&morter company WotC felt more comfortable dealing with another legal entity as opposed to the loose group of volenteers that PCGen is. Remember PCGen isn't a "legal" entity, it's just an open source group. And those negotiations cost money and the permissions cost money so the datasets HAVE to cost something. And the fact that the datasets were re-built from the ground up you had to pay the people that re-did those.</p><p></p><p>Note: I was not involved with above said meetings. But I was at GenCon '02 and got most of my information fairly close to the sources so it's a real close approximation of what happened.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nylanfs, post: 1234325, member: 10612"] Actually PCGen never recieved permission to publish the datasets for all the WotC non-OGL stuff (splatbooks, OA, FR stuff). The datasets were done and then released under the (admittantly mistaken) impression that WotC wouldn't have a problem. Bryan and Mynex were always trying to get ahold of Anthony Valterra to make sure it was okay, but they could never get ahold of each other Then came GenCon '02 when they finally were able to get a chance to sit down and talk with him about it and WotC said that they didn't want that stuff being released for free. (And what ever you may have heard WotC never did send Bryan a official C&D order). They said that PCGen had to be OGL compliant and that then negotiations could take place about the non-OGL books. It took (I think) 40 days for PCGen to become OGL compliant, and the PCGen BoD decided to go ahead and make it's self d20 compliant also just to prove we could. :) If I'm wrong about how long it took I'm sure somebody else will correct me. After that was done Bryan and Mynex and Lone Jedi sat down with WotC and started negotiations with them about the non-OGL booksets. And CMP was formed because as a brink&morter company WotC felt more comfortable dealing with another legal entity as opposed to the loose group of volenteers that PCGen is. Remember PCGen isn't a "legal" entity, it's just an open source group. And those negotiations cost money and the permissions cost money so the datasets HAVE to cost something. And the fact that the datasets were re-built from the ground up you had to pay the people that re-did those. Note: I was not involved with above said meetings. But I was at GenCon '02 and got most of my information fairly close to the sources so it's a real close approximation of what happened. [/QUOTE]
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