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<blockquote data-quote="Griffith Dragonlake" data-source="post: 3208941" data-attributes="member: 40379"><p>I've seen a number of references here and of course OoTS for Dwarves with Scottish accents. What is the origin of this stereotype?</p><p></p><p>The LotR movies featured John Ryhs-Davies as Gimli. John spoke with his native Welsh accent.</p><p></p><p>Baldur's Gate II featured an NPC Dwarf with a Scottish accent? Is that the source?</p><p></p><p>The D&D Dwarf appears to have been influenced by Tolkein and Norse mythology. Neither source makes Dwarves speak like Robert Burns.</p><p></p><p>The Wormy comic in The Dragon had an episode dealing with Dwarves who spoke with a faux Scandinavian accent.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts?</p><p></p><p>…</p><p></p><p>And why the stereotype of Dwarven Clerics of Thor (as seen in OoTS)? Thor was not their deity in the Norse myths. In fact the Aesir had an uneasy relationship with the Dwarves. In the story of Baldur's Death, Thor is so distraught while attending Baldur's funereal pyre that he kicks a nearby dwarf onto the bier who is consumed in the flames. There is another story where Odin cheats some dwarves out of an agreed upon payment and in turn the Dwarves curse the magic items.</p><p></p><p>If Dwarves are going to worship a "human" god, it should be Wayland/Volund the Germanic/Norse lame smith god, Hephaistos/Vulcan the Greco-Roman lame smith god, or Govannon/Goibhniu the Welsh/Irish smith god (who is a Dwarf IIRC). Or maybe they would worship the underworld deity since they themselves live in the underworld. Hel, Arawn, and Orcus/Pluto/Hades come to mind.</p><p></p><p>Any thoughts?</p><p></p><p>…</p><p></p><p>FWIW the Norse drank Mead and the English Ale long before beer was common. In the Middle Ages it was pretty much the Germans that were drinking beer. According the OED, Alehouse and Alewife preceed the word beer.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Griffith Dragonlake, post: 3208941, member: 40379"] I've seen a number of references here and of course OoTS for Dwarves with Scottish accents. What is the origin of this stereotype? The LotR movies featured John Ryhs-Davies as Gimli. John spoke with his native Welsh accent. Baldur's Gate II featured an NPC Dwarf with a Scottish accent? Is that the source? The D&D Dwarf appears to have been influenced by Tolkein and Norse mythology. Neither source makes Dwarves speak like Robert Burns. The Wormy comic in The Dragon had an episode dealing with Dwarves who spoke with a faux Scandinavian accent. Any thoughts? … And why the stereotype of Dwarven Clerics of Thor (as seen in OoTS)? Thor was not their deity in the Norse myths. In fact the Aesir had an uneasy relationship with the Dwarves. In the story of Baldur's Death, Thor is so distraught while attending Baldur's funereal pyre that he kicks a nearby dwarf onto the bier who is consumed in the flames. There is another story where Odin cheats some dwarves out of an agreed upon payment and in turn the Dwarves curse the magic items. If Dwarves are going to worship a "human" god, it should be Wayland/Volund the Germanic/Norse lame smith god, Hephaistos/Vulcan the Greco-Roman lame smith god, or Govannon/Goibhniu the Welsh/Irish smith god (who is a Dwarf IIRC). Or maybe they would worship the underworld deity since they themselves live in the underworld. Hel, Arawn, and Orcus/Pluto/Hades come to mind. Any thoughts? … FWIW the Norse drank Mead and the English Ale long before beer was common. In the Middle Ages it was pretty much the Germans that were drinking beer. According the OED, Alehouse and Alewife preceed the word beer. [/QUOTE]
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