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<blockquote data-quote="CRG" data-source="post: 282224" data-attributes="member: 5867">Like I said, I was being extremely picky and nigh-heretical.&nbsp;&nbsp; The main points is that - YES monks are good unarmed but that does not mean you must ALWAYS use unarmed combat.&nbsp; Suit up to protect yourself.&nbsp; Use weapons when you need to.&nbsp; So you run into something with DR and your DM hasn't blessed you with the perfect weapon that gives you great magical bonuses and allows you to use your unarmed attack rate?&nbsp; So what, use a dagger or a spear!Not trying to be a pain, but any class is going to suck if you pigeon-hole yourself.&nbsp; The monk is a very survivable class and respectable in combat, but in no way is it supposed to be able to go up against all foes and put the beat-down on them with your bare fists.&nbsp; And in any event, so what if it is armor?&nbsp; So you loose some abilities while you wear it at lower levels to stay alive...what's the deal?&nbsp; Its like expecting the ranger to always dual-wield just because he can, or for the barbarian to never-ever get proficiency in or wear heavy armor because he looses some class features.&nbsp; Sure, they are useful.&nbsp; Its also like expecting every cleric to have a high charisma to turn lots of undead - how many clerics slack off in that department?&nbsp; Is it unheard of?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="CRG, post: 282224, member: 5867"] Like I said, I was being extremely picky and nigh-heretical. The main points is that - YES monks are good unarmed but that does not mean you must ALWAYS use unarmed combat. Suit up to protect yourself. Use weapons when you need to. So you run into something with DR and your DM hasn't blessed you with the perfect weapon that gives you great magical bonuses and allows you to use your unarmed attack rate? So what, use a dagger or a spear! Not trying to be a pain, but any class is going to suck if you pigeon-hole yourself. The monk is a very survivable class and respectable in combat, but in no way is it supposed to be able to go up against all foes and put the beat-down on them with your bare fists. And in any event, so what if it is armor? So you loose some abilities while you wear it at lower levels to stay alive...what's the deal? Its like expecting the ranger to always dual-wield just because he can, or for the barbarian to never-ever get proficiency in or wear heavy armor because he looses some class features. Sure, they are useful. Its also like expecting every cleric to have a high charisma to turn lots of undead - how many clerics slack off in that department? Is it unheard of? [/QUOTE]

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