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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alaric_Prympax" data-source="post: 283763" data-attributes="member: 176">It's how it's presentedEdit Quote:  Emphasis on Base Class is mine.Concering the 'Exotic' Weapons/Items for the monk:Matt because the Monk is considered a base class the fantasy game intertwines the Oriental nor European Fantasies.  If you want realism in your European Fantasy Based campaign then just exclude the Monk class period.  IMO because the Monk class is a base class then it's weapons may be exotic for every other character but they are not for the monk class.  In effect a sword may be a martial weapon and usable by a fighter but not the wizard (unless an elf).  So no one else can use a Kama without the Exotic Weapon Feat, a Sorerer can't use a Long Sword without Martial Weapon Feat.  If you include Monks in your campaign then include items for it.Let me give you an example from Greyhawk, the Scarlet Brotherhood is known for its Monks, they lead their country.  They are a Suel people.  The SB also sends out its people (Monks included) on all sorts of missions and not all of its people survive so 'lost' items are going to be out there.  In the Greyhawk world there is a spinter group of the Scarlet Brotherhood (with psionic powers no less) formed a school in Onnwal for training both monks and psions/psychic warriors  and a PrC (see Dragon #281).  So there should be plenty of monk items in the Eastern Flanaess.Keoland though has a large population of Oeridians the nobility is mostly Suel and its possible that there are Monk schools there as well.  So Monk weapons could be found in the Western Flanaess as well.  All without suspending disbelief  (IMO at least <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ).Of course the above 2 paragraphs are implying that monks in Greyhawk are all Suloise.  That is not the case at all in Greyhawk.  The Baklunish Goddess Xan Yae has monk followers.  The favored weapons for her clergy are the Falchion, and monk weapons.   To me at least that implies that there are monks in the Baklunish nations on Oerth as well and thus monk items.  It really all depends on how you present the Monk class in your campaign.  If you only want them to come from one area in your campaign and that area is not where you are having your campaign then of course there won't be any items for them.  Everyone has a different view of the character classes.  IMC it is almost impossible for a PC to be a Barbarian, it just does not fit into the 'campaign' I'm running.  It seems that you are having a difficult time having Monks in yours.Concerning the aspeck of Monks being unable to hit certain creatures that have Damage Reduction and need a '+' weapon then just lower the Ki Strike as someone else suggested.Sorry for being so long winded... er... typed. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />   Just my 2 cp's on the subject.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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