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Message: <blockquote data-quote="apsuman" data-source="post: 288837" data-attributes="member: 1769">Thank you.I would hope not, this thread seems to have a concensus that the fighter should indeed be a better fighter than the monk.  I was trying to point out really two things:1.  Many people try to make a monk that is optimized for ALL of his abilities, and achieve one that succeeds at NONE of them (at least not well).  And, by deciding on the type of monk you want, you can make a monk that does just that.2.  By going "against type" you can have a very fun character.A high str monk like I have is a better fighter (but not as good as a fighter)A high Int monk is a better scout (but not as good as a rogue).A high Wis monk is a stunning fool.A high Dex monk should probably finesse his unarmed combat but will excel at many of his skills.Personally, I think the quaterstaff should be considered a monk weapon (isn't that what the monk has in her right hand in the PHB?).  If it were, then with the above monk take expertise, improved disarm, power attack, sunder, and improved initiative.  Equip with a +3 quater staff.Your attacks would be trip and then disarm your opponents (a quater staff being a large weapon helps esp. against one handed medium size weapons).  When they draw a new weapon you take the AOO, if they try to pick up the weapon, take the AOO. If you want to make them mad, sunder the weapon (you will do better if they are prone or not a fighter type).  Alternatively, if you really want to make things chaotic, trip, disarm, then attack the unattended weapon.   I dare say most opponents would want to get their weapon which would draw an AOO, if they got it before you did, then they would have used a MEA, if they attack prone then they have a -4 to hit, if they stand on the round they pick up the weapon they get no attack.  So you can lather, rinse, and repeat.An unattended weapon has an AC of 5 + it's size modifier.  A long sword +3 would have an AC of 5, Hardness of 13 and 8 hit points.  but, that's just my idea.g!</blockquote>

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