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<blockquote data-quote="Tzarevitch" data-source="post: 296665" data-attributes="member: 1792"><p>I think it is a fair complaint. Your argument assumes that every treasure you run into is totally random treasure rolled straight out of the DMG. Most treasure is not that random. Unless you play 1e-style, treasure tends to be specific to the environment and the setting. </p><p></p><p>Treasure you find tends to be the stuff that the person or people who owned it could use. If you are playing in a non-oriental setting, only monks every really use those weapons because they aren't terribly effective for anyone else. </p><p></p><p>If you are looting through an ancient dwarven ruin for example you will usually find dwarven weapons (axes, swords, hammers etc.) Unless your DM is kind puts bizarre stuff in there (by rolling totally randomly) or you run in to the dwarven monk dojo, you won't find many nunchaku or anything remotely resembling a monk weapon (which is why I allow monks to use quarterstaves with their unarmed attack rate). </p><p></p><p>The problem is that a monk only gets much benefit out of a small category of exotic weapons and those same weapons are some of the least useful weapons for anyone else (they frequently require exotic weapon prof and are low damage to boot.) Because these weapons are so minimally useful to anyone else they are almost never made made for anyone other than a monk for his own use, or BY a monk for his own use (or use of his monk friends). </p><p></p><p>Add to this the fact that monks don't NEED to use magic weapons (and can frequently do more damage without them), and the fact that monk is a fairly rare class to start with, you will find VERY few monk weapons in circulation unless the DM chooses to make a purely random roll of the table. To date, I have never played with a DM that rolls randomly and keeps items that don't make sense for their location or owner. </p><p></p><p>The PHB monk class is very dependent on the DMG tables for useful weapons. If you are playing in a setting where magic items aren't that common you will be lucky to ever find enchanted monk weapons. </p><p></p><p>Tzarevitch</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tzarevitch, post: 296665, member: 1792"] I think it is a fair complaint. Your argument assumes that every treasure you run into is totally random treasure rolled straight out of the DMG. Most treasure is not that random. Unless you play 1e-style, treasure tends to be specific to the environment and the setting. Treasure you find tends to be the stuff that the person or people who owned it could use. If you are playing in a non-oriental setting, only monks every really use those weapons because they aren't terribly effective for anyone else. If you are looting through an ancient dwarven ruin for example you will usually find dwarven weapons (axes, swords, hammers etc.) Unless your DM is kind puts bizarre stuff in there (by rolling totally randomly) or you run in to the dwarven monk dojo, you won't find many nunchaku or anything remotely resembling a monk weapon (which is why I allow monks to use quarterstaves with their unarmed attack rate). The problem is that a monk only gets much benefit out of a small category of exotic weapons and those same weapons are some of the least useful weapons for anyone else (they frequently require exotic weapon prof and are low damage to boot.) Because these weapons are so minimally useful to anyone else they are almost never made made for anyone other than a monk for his own use, or BY a monk for his own use (or use of his monk friends). Add to this the fact that monks don't NEED to use magic weapons (and can frequently do more damage without them), and the fact that monk is a fairly rare class to start with, you will find VERY few monk weapons in circulation unless the DM chooses to make a purely random roll of the table. To date, I have never played with a DM that rolls randomly and keeps items that don't make sense for their location or owner. The PHB monk class is very dependent on the DMG tables for useful weapons. If you are playing in a setting where magic items aren't that common you will be lucky to ever find enchanted monk weapons. Tzarevitch [/QUOTE]
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