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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Forrester" data-source="post: 300625" data-attributes="member: 1279">In a word, "No". Also, "No, no, no, and no." A CR7 is not an even challenge for a 7th level party. It is a challenge that is supposed to consume approximately one quarter of the party's resources. In essence, CR is roughly "Character level equivalent" in terms of strength.This means that yes, combat-oriented characters of 7th level should be able to take on a Hill Giant. Luckily, they CAN. I will put up the 7th level fighter/barbarian mix character of a player in my campaign against a Hill Giant any day of the week. After raging and a potion of Bull's Strength he's got about +16 to hit and is doing about 23 points of damage a swing, not to mention about 70hp of his own. I think Mr. Hill Giant is going to be given a run for his money. A 7th level mage can get off a Hold or Charm Monster to take care of the problem, or cast Fly and then blast his target with Enervates or summoned monsters. A 7th level combat cleric/meat shield might be able to hold his own, but he'd have a tougher time. But he's not "meant" to do well alone. Ditto for Mr. Troll; I'd put a well-equipped 5th level fighter (who carries around a few flasks of Alchemist's Fire) against a Troll, and expect (narrow) victory about half the time. The CR system works, people.</blockquote>