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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shard O'Glase" data-source="post: 301878" data-attributes="member: 1134">Nope it wouldn't be better to have a barbarian.  Hide and sneak are core skills for a single pc class to be able to effective do anything to the party.  As for the costs of items oops I went of a smidge.  Fine make it a potion of bulls str, and a potion of whatever that lame wisdom spell is.   As for boots of cheat, yeah good for you, you don't like a core item.  If you hadn't noticed there was a centaur in the PC group, with that kind of mobility boots of cheat are just evening the odds.    Situation 1 my monk attacks the party.  Ok Mr. Wizard you take 12 points of damage you see a fleeting shape turn the corner.  Roll initiative, by the time you turn the corner your selves you don't see anyone.   Or heck if you just want to do good damage, ok mr wiz you take 12 points of damage make a fort save, you failed ah geez, ok lets see roll initiative but your stunned so you can't do anything.  BOP/ZANG/ZOW this guys is grappling you and crushing you bones.  You take another 36 points of damage oh your dead.  The monk quietly drags off your body not letting it fall, and sneaks off.  Silence +stun+decent grappling can mean an unaware party when someone is getting pounded. This can work especially well if the monk can set up any kind of distraction.       Situation 2 your barb, oh mr ranger-or rogue you see and hear a barb coming for you guys roll initiative.</blockquote>

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