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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hakkenshi" data-source="post: 309854" data-attributes="member: 5457">For the record, <a href="http://csserver.evansville.edu/~jc84/DD3/Monster_ECL.htm" target="_blank">Soldarin's ECL Generator</a> lists the Centaur as being ECL +5, and it's generally more lenient than WotC's listings.So you're way off-base on the ECLs.And your vaunted fighter or barbarian is gonna go down HARD against that party. I grant you that a mage would be tougher to approach easily, but he'd be toast within less than a round of 5 PCs attacking him. Haste doesn't guarantee him initiative on the round following his surprise round. Losing initiative for him = going to the meat grinder.Please, could you explain the logic behind your "APL"? I don't get it. Because a 10-character party of level 5 characters is most assuredly APL 5, but they'll massacre even normally overpowering challenges for a level 5 party.A 5-character screws the CR system to heck. It's based off a 4-PC party, and one of your PCs is an ECL 9! Recalculate the whole thing. That you would miss these essential factors is really making me wonder whether any test you've had with the monk has been valid <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>