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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hakkenshi" data-source="post: 310660" data-attributes="member: 5457">You're definitely correct that a monk who focuses on the crossbow is weak. He's not only weak, he's also using an infinitesimal part of his skills, including movement abilities, as you rightly pointed out. But the crossbow is useful in certain cases, and it helps to be prepared. I think the monk's strength is certainly that he doesn't need to focus exclusively on anything to be good at it. A monk who focuses on unarmed combat but also on stealth is easily accomplished. In fact, it's sort of the base class.Your point about the feats and skills is a good one too. Maybe the monk's chief weakness is that he generally is a close copy of other monks, never mind what feats and skills he's taken, because the class has so many abilities in-built. A rogue is not necessarily like another rogue, but a monk is usually like another monk. The changes are more subtle, and perhaps less important.However, I have rarely, if ever, taken Spring Attack with a monk. And since only one of the half-dozen or so monks I've played was a ninja-like character, the others didn't focus as much on stealth. I've played a diplomat-pacifist Human monk and a grappling Vanara monk, for example (loads of fun, but ironically died grappling two dire monkeys to save the party; good news is that it worked, since the battered party slaughtered them while they was trading blows with my character).I find that the feats in OA *really* make a difference in flavour, and certainly make the monk a better grappler <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />At this point, though, I'm just concerned that pitting a 7th-level monk, no matter how prepared he is, against a party like the one you describe won't resolve the issue in a satisfactory manner. Well, as you said, we'll see. If you have the opportunity to, take a neutral party (like another, uninvolved gamer friend) and run a practice match to get used to the tactics. I guarantee that can only help.</blockquote>

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