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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 311381" data-attributes="member: 6239">Scion, I think you have missed the point.  You are quit correct that the monk doesn't really stand a chance of winning.  Nothing ~CR 7 would.  Every one agrees on that.Now to the question of how long it would take to go down.  A hill giant has lots of HP and could stand punishment for a while.  Does the hill giant have a chance against, from his point of view, a CR 11?  Not even close.A CR at your parties level is supposed to consume 20~25% of your resources.  An encounter at +1 to +4 your APL is supposed to be "very difficult" and something you should consider running from.  I don't have a DMG, and these are not in the SRD as far as I can tell, but the pages of these facts have been posted before.  A full strength party APL should be able to maul a hill giant, but maybe they shouldn't risk the loss of life.The monk's prospective is not an issue here.  If I was the PC, put into that position, I would run.  NPCs, for one reason or another don't.  The odds are very stacked in favor of the party.  Now the question remains: will the monk be able to take a bite out of them before he goes down or runs?  If he can't do anything, maybe he really isn't a CR7, or maybe the monk class is weak on combat (which it is).  It was a fairly standard kind of situation for the monk, one that he isn't perfect for, but might be ok at.  The barbarian would take a much bigger chunk out the PCs I think.As for terrain, the monk knows it, could add simple traps in out the way places.  He can pick the size of corridor to attack in.  He can head them off.  He can lead them off to get lost.  All of these make him more deadly.  He can't just collapse the ceiling on the PCs, since he is supposed to guard the catacombs, but there are many other things he can do.If the monk is slautered easily, which I don't see as likely, he was either badly designed for his class or his class is holding him back.  That is why the monk fight was a decent test, better than monk vs hill giant.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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