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<blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7530551" data-attributes="member: 6919838"><p>Agreed, outside of niche cases which really are not in doubt in the first place (need a nat 20 to do any dmg wont usually be a winning approach anywhere near as often as do more damage round after round). </p><p></p><p>Practically speaking ehst matters more often than not is how much you take (actual loss), not how much you reduced it (ratio).</p><p></p><p>I give this example... </p><p></p><p>If you get an offer with a redeemable code - buy a one dollar item you need for a dime or buy a ten dollar item you need for 7 dollars but you can only choose one with the code, which would you choose? The dollar deal gets you the "biggest ratio" (like the disad applied to need a 20) but the ten dollar deal saves you more money (like the disad on the 11 roll).</p><p></p><p>Most same folks would take the ten dollar deal in a heartbeat from any rational math based analysis decision or just common sense.</p><p></p><p>The niche case would be if there was a singularly vital reason that the one dollar item was critical to something more than it's one dollar value suggests.</p><p></p><p>But the beauty of this is when it comes to these discussions, math doesn't care what you believe so those who truly believe on faith the disad the 20 approach (as opposed to those who just use it for net trolling) and use it in their own decision making will get exactly what's coming to them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="5ekyu, post: 7530551, member: 6919838"] Agreed, outside of niche cases which really are not in doubt in the first place (need a nat 20 to do any dmg wont usually be a winning approach anywhere near as often as do more damage round after round). Practically speaking ehst matters more often than not is how much you take (actual loss), not how much you reduced it (ratio). I give this example... If you get an offer with a redeemable code - buy a one dollar item you need for a dime or buy a ten dollar item you need for 7 dollars but you can only choose one with the code, which would you choose? The dollar deal gets you the "biggest ratio" (like the disad applied to need a 20) but the ten dollar deal saves you more money (like the disad on the 11 roll). Most same folks would take the ten dollar deal in a heartbeat from any rational math based analysis decision or just common sense. The niche case would be if there was a singularly vital reason that the one dollar item was critical to something more than it's one dollar value suggests. But the beauty of this is when it comes to these discussions, math doesn't care what you believe so those who truly believe on faith the disad the 20 approach (as opposed to those who just use it for net trolling) and use it in their own decision making will get exactly what's coming to them. [/QUOTE]
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