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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 7531130" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>This is a situational analysis that determines best tactical choices, not the overall effectiveness of disadvantage. I could present an example where a high AC fighter is holding a door against a horde for many minutes vs a low AC mage getting attacked once and the "best" use of disad changes. This is spinning tales to try to justify an argument.</p><p></p><p>Mechanically, disadvantage has the largest effect at 20, not 11. Tactically, you need to use your resources to best advantage, and that's going to depend on the situation you're facing.</p><p></p><p>Curiously, though, assuming ad arguendo tgat you're right and disadvantage is much, much more effective at 11 vice 20, would you give a cloak of displacement to a high AC fighter or to a low AC mage? Why? I'd bet you'd pick the fighter because it will seriously reduce his chance of being hit and he'll take the brunt of the attacks over a campaign. So, even here, the choice is also dependant on tge likelihood of being attacked -- you cannot say you'll get the best bang from the mage even assuming your argument holds because the mage will suffer many fewer attacks than the fighter.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 7531130, member: 16814"] This is a situational analysis that determines best tactical choices, not the overall effectiveness of disadvantage. I could present an example where a high AC fighter is holding a door against a horde for many minutes vs a low AC mage getting attacked once and the "best" use of disad changes. This is spinning tales to try to justify an argument. Mechanically, disadvantage has the largest effect at 20, not 11. Tactically, you need to use your resources to best advantage, and that's going to depend on the situation you're facing. Curiously, though, assuming ad arguendo tgat you're right and disadvantage is much, much more effective at 11 vice 20, would you give a cloak of displacement to a high AC fighter or to a low AC mage? Why? I'd bet you'd pick the fighter because it will seriously reduce his chance of being hit and he'll take the brunt of the attacks over a campaign. So, even here, the choice is also dependant on tge likelihood of being attacked -- you cannot say you'll get the best bang from the mage even assuming your argument holds because the mage will suffer many fewer attacks than the fighter. [/QUOTE]
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