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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1212365" data-attributes="member: 2011">3.5 appears to have changed focus from:"What did the spell / magic item in 1E / 2E do and how do we make it work in a similar manner to all other items in 3E, but with a similar level of power or effect to earlier versions?"to:"How do we make every similar effect equal in power or effect in 3.5?"The focus totally changed.For example, the 1E / 2E Elvencloak resulted in near invisibility (95+% or 50% in lit areas) to the 3E Cloak of Elvenkind (+10 to Hide skill). It was basically nerfed, but still useful to make someone nearly invisible in dark places. When it went to 3.5, it became +5 to Hide skill. This is so far removed from the original Elvencloak that as a player in 1E / 2E, an Elvencloak was a really desirable item. In 3E, it was a nice to have item. In 3.5, it is a not worth my time item.It went from being invisibility type magic to a slight bonus to a skill.Ditto for a Ring of Jumping / Jump spell. In 1E / 2E, it was the ability to jump considerable distances. This got nerfed in 3E to fair distances, but still useful. It got nerfed again in 3.5 to match their concept of +5 to skill items. Again, the original 1E / 2E intent of the item / spell was totally ignored in 3.5 for this sense of continuity across the board.In their quest for continuity, they lost sight of their origins. IMO.And because of things like this, I am really on the fence as to whether my group should convert from 3E to 3.5. They improved a lot of game elements, but at a sacrifice of some fairly basic common themes from the old days. The 3.5 game feels just a little too "politically correct" or "vanilla flavor", at least to me. If a 3E game element had a high utility, nerf it.</blockquote>

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