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<blockquote data-quote="Whizbang Dustyboots" data-source="post: 4378973" data-attributes="member: 11760"><p>Top Ballista!</p><p></p><p></p><p>D2 springs immediately to mind.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Complete Book of Halflings & Gnomes and Races of Stone are all that I immediately think of.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Why is a niche setting inspired by E.R. Burroughs any sort of litmus test for standard D&D? Dark Sun didn't feature a lot of stuff from standard D&D.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course, when you open the field up to other forms of media, pretty much all non-D&D fantasy games that feature traditional races feature gnomes. Heck, the latest EQ1 expansion is almost entirely gnome themed (with an extra helping of apocalyptic god-like unique dragon for good measure).</p><p></p><p>When EQ1 was at its height during the late 2E era, there were a quarter of a million people playing a game featuring techy, magical gnomes and their clockwork city. Was 2E pulling in those sorts of numbers? Obviously, not all of EQ1's success can be traced to the presence of gnomes, but how many computer games have to be released featuring gnomes before it suggests that, whatever the TSR/WotC powers that be might like, there's a bunch of gnome fans out there -- who are now less catered to than they were in previous incarnations of AD&D.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How is it that other WotC decisions can be quirky or even bone-headed, but gnome hating has an alleged basis in cold, hard facts?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Whizbang Dustyboots, post: 4378973, member: 11760"] Top Ballista! D2 springs immediately to mind. Complete Book of Halflings & Gnomes and Races of Stone are all that I immediately think of. Why is a niche setting inspired by E.R. Burroughs any sort of litmus test for standard D&D? Dark Sun didn't feature a lot of stuff from standard D&D. Of course, when you open the field up to other forms of media, pretty much all non-D&D fantasy games that feature traditional races feature gnomes. Heck, the latest EQ1 expansion is almost entirely gnome themed (with an extra helping of apocalyptic god-like unique dragon for good measure). When EQ1 was at its height during the late 2E era, there were a quarter of a million people playing a game featuring techy, magical gnomes and their clockwork city. Was 2E pulling in those sorts of numbers? Obviously, not all of EQ1's success can be traced to the presence of gnomes, but how many computer games have to be released featuring gnomes before it suggests that, whatever the TSR/WotC powers that be might like, there's a bunch of gnome fans out there -- who are now less catered to than they were in previous incarnations of AD&D. How is it that other WotC decisions can be quirky or even bone-headed, but gnome hating has an alleged basis in cold, hard facts? [/QUOTE]
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