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<blockquote data-quote="Anthtriel" data-source="post: 3856832" data-attributes="member: 13764"><p>You are joking, right?</p><p></p><p>Either that, or you never looked at a Wizard 10/Sorcerer 10. It ain't pretty. And yes, it is a valid character concept. That's pretty much what the Simbul in FR looks like, in the official supplements.</p><p></p><p></p><p>How can you get any less role-playing than 3.5 Diplomacy skill?</p><p></p><p>And please tell me which new 4th edition change equals less role-playing. I'm not mocking you, I'm honestly curious, because apart from the deemphasis of alignment, which helps role-playing, I see not a single change that would even affect it.</p><p></p><p>And don't tell me writing Profession: Brewer on your character sheet equals role-playing. It doesn't. If anything, 3.5 encourages you to skip over the "fluffy" skills like profession in favor of tumble, spellcraft, spot and other important stuff, leaving you with characters who explicitly cannot do anything out of combat.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anthtriel, post: 3856832, member: 13764"] You are joking, right? Either that, or you never looked at a Wizard 10/Sorcerer 10. It ain't pretty. And yes, it is a valid character concept. That's pretty much what the Simbul in FR looks like, in the official supplements. How can you get any less role-playing than 3.5 Diplomacy skill? And please tell me which new 4th edition change equals less role-playing. I'm not mocking you, I'm honestly curious, because apart from the deemphasis of alignment, which helps role-playing, I see not a single change that would even affect it. And don't tell me writing Profession: Brewer on your character sheet equals role-playing. It doesn't. If anything, 3.5 encourages you to skip over the "fluffy" skills like profession in favor of tumble, spellcraft, spot and other important stuff, leaving you with characters who explicitly cannot do anything out of combat. [/QUOTE]
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