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<blockquote data-quote="nutluck" data-source="post: 3857090" data-attributes="member: 4844"><p>Don't like it myself but don't consider it a big enough deal to care as far as buying or playing the game goes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Might be good might be bad, depends how they handle it. Though I really dislike the concept of per encounter spells. Now that is something i utterly loath and is one of the biggest things turning me off of 4e right now.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I like the change of making elves more fey like and less human, what I don't like is leaving in the old elves as well. I wanted to see them all go this route.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Good idea that i felt was poorly done all and all, to many of them felt like hybrid melee caster type abilities and doesn't fit my idea of a fighter. Will see how 4e handles it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Need to wait to learn more before I have a oppinion on it. Though removing of non combat stuff if they do will annoy me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Not to worried, sure they will add them back in later. Though depends on which ones on how much it bugs me.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Completely agree, they are ok in concept but not something that should be a main race over say something like a gnome. Hell I would rather see orcs as a main race over them. They should have been added later IMHO</p><p></p><p></p><p>Lots of stuff gets invalidated from one edition to another, sure they will redo it. Not sure i will like it cause I did like the old set up, but like the demon and devils. Even though I don't like the change it is not enough to effect me buying or playing the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually in favor of this one. I thought fireball was to powerful before comphered to other spells.</p><p></p><p>Now with this all said, my over all opinion of 4e so far is this. Some stuff i don't care enough about ect. So not counting that stuff I am about 60/40 against 4e right now. There are things I like but there is more things right now that I don't like. Grant this could change as we get more information but with what we have so far, I am disliking more than I am liking what I am hearing so far.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="nutluck, post: 3857090, member: 4844"] Don't like it myself but don't consider it a big enough deal to care as far as buying or playing the game goes. Might be good might be bad, depends how they handle it. Though I really dislike the concept of per encounter spells. Now that is something i utterly loath and is one of the biggest things turning me off of 4e right now. I like the change of making elves more fey like and less human, what I don't like is leaving in the old elves as well. I wanted to see them all go this route. Good idea that i felt was poorly done all and all, to many of them felt like hybrid melee caster type abilities and doesn't fit my idea of a fighter. Will see how 4e handles it. Need to wait to learn more before I have a oppinion on it. Though removing of non combat stuff if they do will annoy me. Not to worried, sure they will add them back in later. Though depends on which ones on how much it bugs me. Completely agree, they are ok in concept but not something that should be a main race over say something like a gnome. Hell I would rather see orcs as a main race over them. They should have been added later IMHO Lots of stuff gets invalidated from one edition to another, sure they will redo it. Not sure i will like it cause I did like the old set up, but like the demon and devils. Even though I don't like the change it is not enough to effect me buying or playing the game. Actually in favor of this one. I thought fireball was to powerful before comphered to other spells. Now with this all said, my over all opinion of 4e so far is this. Some stuff i don't care enough about ect. So not counting that stuff I am about 60/40 against 4e right now. There are things I like but there is more things right now that I don't like. Grant this could change as we get more information but with what we have so far, I am disliking more than I am liking what I am hearing so far. [/QUOTE]
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