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<blockquote data-quote="Cbas_10" data-source="post: 3857521" data-attributes="member: 55767">There may be someone with the No-Talking tagline.&nbsp; Don't know.&nbsp; I wouldn't buy that product, either.&nbsp; And regarding 1e...you are right.&nbsp; I don't like 1e, either.&nbsp; And a very good point about the majority of feats and spells being about killing the opponent.&nbsp; But, not all of them.&nbsp; My point here (and elsewhere) has been a concern about these non-combat aspects being absent from the game since WotC has not talked about anything but combat.And I don't doubt that there are social MMOs.&nbsp; I have not played them all and am not an expert in the genre.&nbsp; But looking at the more popular/well-known ones, they are simple (in concept...not simple to play or master) and fun kill-fests-of-powermongering.&nbsp; I like them.&nbsp; I also like D&amp;D at a table with friends where we can have cool characters that spark our imaginations.&nbsp; I just don't want a game that stifles or ignores the role-playing aspect of a role-playing game.I don't want a situation where everyone is forced to get into deep characters and have periodic diceless sessions of pure intrigue; it might not be your style.&nbsp; Play a dungeon, kill stuff, and go home.&nbsp; Cool...it is your game.&nbsp; However, I also don't want a situation where the option is stripped from the game, requiring mounds of house rules to reinsert an aspect that has (at least for some gamers) brought fun to the table.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cbas_10, post: 3857521, member: 55767"] There may be someone with the No-Talking tagline. Don't know. I wouldn't buy that product, either. And regarding 1e...you are right. I don't like 1e, either. And a very good point about the majority of feats and spells being about killing the opponent. But, not [i]all of them.[/i] My point here (and elsewhere) has been a concern about these non-combat aspects being absent from the game since WotC has not talked about anything but combat. And I don't doubt that there are social MMOs. I have not played them all and am not an expert in the genre. But looking at the more popular/well-known ones, they are simple (in concept...not simple to play or master) and fun kill-fests-of-powermongering. I like them. I also like D&D at a table with friends where we can have cool characters that spark our imaginations. I just don't want a game that stifles or ignores the [i]role-playing[/i] aspect of a role-playing game. I don't want a situation where everyone is forced to get into deep characters and have periodic diceless sessions of pure intrigue; it might not be your style. Play a dungeon, kill stuff, and go home. Cool...it is your game. However, I also don't want a situation where the option is stripped from the game, requiring mounds of house rules to reinsert an aspect that has (at least for some gamers) brought fun to the table. [/QUOTE]

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