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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 4691972" data-attributes="member: 114">Dragons seemed to be quite low on the damage totem until I started actually adding things up, but I think I might move dragon breath weapon from being 'low limited damage expression' as an area to attack to 'high limited damage expression' as, well, dragon breath is about as iconic for D&D as it can get!As one example, the adult black dragon (11th level lurker) would be expected to have 3d6+5 (avg 15.5) for its at-wills and up to 4d10+6 (avg 28) for its encounter power (although giving it maximum reduction for its area nature the encounter power could perhaps be 3d8+5, avg 19.5)It actually has 1d8+4 (ongoing 5) damage from the bite, which averages out as 1d8+14 over time = ~18.5, or two claws for 1d6+4 each, which averages 15 damage. Breath is 2d8+3 ongoing 5, which averages to ~22 damage.</blockquote>