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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dcollins" data-source="post: 1342516" data-attributes="member: 876">I don't have a problem with it, but I think some people may get irritated/confused by the unusually large number of rolls that need to be made to resolve a grappling attempt. That was intentional to make it hard to do, but it involves:- One touch roll.- One AOO resolution.- Two rolls for opposed attacks using nonstandard Attack Bonus.- Some details about sizing limits and damage/pin options.It seems that for a lot of people these are just a bit too complicated. I must admit I can't think of another attack routine in the PHB that takes that many rolls to resolve (maybe Disarm or Trip in the case of a fail-and-counter-attempt).</blockquote>