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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TheAuldGrump" data-source="post: 1941324" data-attributes="member: 6957">Hmmm, I agree that a lot of Metamagic feats have too high a cost. For huge battles Widen can be handy, and for tough one Maximize.Quicken is nifty, but when I am GMing it somehow feels like cheating. (I still use it though <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /> )The Metamagic Rods.... Those I like, though for some reason Widen seems to have missed the list, I treat it the same as Maximize for price, I think that it just got left off by accident.But my favorite use is to create scrolls with Metamagiced spells, that way you can be prepared for an emergency and the extra casting level is not as horrible, just pricey. A Maximized Fireball scroll brings smiles to my player's faces when they find it in treasure, while they will say 'ho hum' if they find a couple of normal fireballs. Yes, they could create it themselves, but it just brightens their day that they don't have to. And they will save that scroll, waiting for just the right occassion, whereas they will just use the fireball scrolls.  Players are strange creatures. And even when the enemy wizard uses it on them it does not seem to bother them any more than taking that damage normally would.The Auld Grump</blockquote>