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<blockquote data-quote="Thanee" data-source="post: 1941327" data-attributes="member: 478"><p>I cannot imagine playing a spontaneous caster (well, apart from a bard), especially the mother of all spontaneous casters, the sorcerer, without metamagic. Metamagic is HUGE for them. 2 or 3 metamagic feats almost double the options a sorcerer has. With spontaneous application, metamagic lives up to what it is meant to be.</p><p> </p><p> Prepared casters have very little use for metamagic, however.</p><p> </p><p> For prepared casters it is also the "problem", that there is generally very little gain in using a metamagicked spell instead of a spell of the higher level.</p><p> </p><p> Why use Empower on a <em>Fireball</em>, if you can cast <em>Firebrand</em> instead. The advantage isn't big enough to justify taking the feat.</p><p> </p><p> I once had a rogue/wizard with the Silent Spell feat. Seemed to fit well to the concept, so I chose it as the wizardly bonus feat. How often do you think I actually used it in game (character was played quite a lot)?</p><p> </p><p> Right. Not a single time. Often it would have been cool, if it could have been applied spontaneously, but with the preparation ahead of time you simply do not know whether it will be useful and the higher level spell has more general uses, so is always a better option.</p><p> </p><p> End of the story, I swapped it out for Empower Spell (with DM consensus, of course), which (under 3.0 rules), was incredibly useful for a wizard (I don't think I would take it under 3.5 rules, tho).</p><p> </p><p> There are only those feats, which add something entirely new, which are great even for the prepared casters... top of the lot is Quicken Spell, which is by far the best metamagic feat for prepared casters (especially cleric and wizard).</p><p> </p><p> The Sudden Metamagic feats are meant to address this issue.</p><p> </p><p> Sudden Maximize seems to be the only really worthwhile of the Sudden Metamagic feats.</p><p> Sudden Empower is ok still, but that's about it, the rest is just of too little use.</p><p> Sudden Still and Silent are great in theory, but 1/day is a bit much of a limitation.</p><p> Not worth spending a feat on such a weak ability, in general.</p><p> </p><p> <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102109" target="_blank">HERE</a> you can read about my (not yet entirely complete) idea to change metamagic and make it more useful, especially for prepared casters (is based on the UA variant).</p><p> </p><p> Bye</p><p> Thanee</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thanee, post: 1941327, member: 478"] I cannot imagine playing a spontaneous caster (well, apart from a bard), especially the mother of all spontaneous casters, the sorcerer, without metamagic. Metamagic is HUGE for them. 2 or 3 metamagic feats almost double the options a sorcerer has. With spontaneous application, metamagic lives up to what it is meant to be. Prepared casters have very little use for metamagic, however. For prepared casters it is also the "problem", that there is generally very little gain in using a metamagicked spell instead of a spell of the higher level. Why use Empower on a [i]Fireball[/i], if you can cast [i]Firebrand[/i] instead. The advantage isn't big enough to justify taking the feat. I once had a rogue/wizard with the Silent Spell feat. Seemed to fit well to the concept, so I chose it as the wizardly bonus feat. How often do you think I actually used it in game (character was played quite a lot)? Right. Not a single time. Often it would have been cool, if it could have been applied spontaneously, but with the preparation ahead of time you simply do not know whether it will be useful and the higher level spell has more general uses, so is always a better option. End of the story, I swapped it out for Empower Spell (with DM consensus, of course), which (under 3.0 rules), was incredibly useful for a wizard (I don't think I would take it under 3.5 rules, tho). There are only those feats, which add something entirely new, which are great even for the prepared casters... top of the lot is Quicken Spell, which is by far the best metamagic feat for prepared casters (especially cleric and wizard). The Sudden Metamagic feats are meant to address this issue. Sudden Maximize seems to be the only really worthwhile of the Sudden Metamagic feats. Sudden Empower is ok still, but that's about it, the rest is just of too little use. Sudden Still and Silent are great in theory, but 1/day is a bit much of a limitation. Not worth spending a feat on such a weak ability, in general. [url="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=102109"]HERE[/url] you can read about my (not yet entirely complete) idea to change metamagic and make it more useful, especially for prepared casters (is based on the UA variant). Bye Thanee [/QUOTE]
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