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<blockquote data-quote="Cruentus" data-source="post: 8724371" data-attributes="member: 7034645">IMO, its mostly terrible adventure design...Why are the DC's for doors so high?&nbsp; Assuming that a character has +2 Prof, and +2 or 3 for their Wis, they have to roll a 15 or so to see the door?&nbsp; Is it intentionally so well hidden as to need that level of Perception?&nbsp; If not, bad design.&nbsp; If so, why?And are there other ways to access the areas hidden behind the doors that are less onerous?&nbsp; Why not?Is accessing those doors critical to the adventure's success?&nbsp; If so.&nbsp; Bad design.And frankly, half of those rolls are stupid.&nbsp; I have to roll a DC 15 to find a jade figurine in a firepit?&nbsp; Or to notice missing mortar?&nbsp; So I have a 50% chance of missing those?&nbsp; Bad design.&nbsp; They could both be auto successes if someone pokes through the firepit, or look around where the mortar is.With adventures like this, no wonder people in the other Perception thread said &quot;I roll Perception&quot;.&nbsp; It seems that at least this adventure is modeled on Perception checks everywhere, and a lot of times where they aren't needed.YMMVEdit:&nbsp; you realize that adventures like this are training players to see Perception as super necessary, right?&nbsp; And if this is how new DMs are being shown the ropes... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes&nbsp; &nbsp; :rolleyes:"&nbsp; data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cruentus, post: 8724371, member: 7034645"] IMO, its mostly terrible adventure design... Why are the DC's for doors so high? Assuming that a character has +2 Prof, and +2 or 3 for their Wis, they have to roll a 15 or so to see the door? Is it intentionally so well hidden as to need that level of Perception? If not, bad design. If so, why? And are there other ways to access the areas hidden behind the doors that are less onerous? Why not? Is accessing those doors critical to the adventure's success? If so. Bad design. And frankly, half of those rolls are stupid. I have to roll a DC 15 to find a jade figurine in a firepit? Or to notice missing mortar? So I have a 50% chance of missing those? Bad design. They could both be auto successes if someone pokes through the firepit, or look around where the mortar is. With adventures like this, no wonder people in the other Perception thread said "I roll Perception". It seems that at least this adventure is modeled on Perception checks everywhere, and a lot of times where they aren't needed. YMMV Edit: you realize that adventures like this are training players to see Perception as super necessary, right? And if this is how new DMs are being shown the ropes... :rolleyes: [/QUOTE]

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