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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kzach" data-source="post: 5696303" data-attributes="member: 56189">Two things.Aside from the example you mentioned, the increase of power is an illusion and nothing more.The second thing is that the example you mentioned can be better represented WITHOUT scaling.What people don't seem to understand is that in a non-scaling system, the character still levels up and still gains more power. It's simply that the math stays relatively the same or with very small increases. The true power increase doesn't lie in gaining bigger numbers because the only situation that creates is requiring creatures with bigger numbers to combat. Instead, the character's power grows through versatility and options, as do the monsters.This is already well represented by 4e through powers and non-bonus granting feats. What you can do at 30th-level is far and away more powerful than what you can do at 1st-level. So that 1st-level goblin is still pretty much irrelevant to you since you have so many and much more powerful options at your disposal to deal with it. Having said that, it adds a sense of realism because even though the 1st-level goblin can be easily dealt with, it's still a viable threat when it has a sword at your throat.So that 30th-level devil that can summon in other devils and reshape reality and regenerates and is immune to fire and can wreathe itself in an aura of flames is still a challenge for 30th-level characters. But it's a challenge because it has more abilities and powers and options, not because stabbing it through the heart with a spear won't kill it simply because the spear can only do 1d8+4 damage.</blockquote>

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