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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ultimatecalibur" data-source="post: 5696778" data-attributes="member: 59539">I don't think he did. In 4e the effect of bonuses on rolls to hit are often invisible while the effect of bonuses on damage rolls are. If you need a to roll an 11 to hit something at level one, by the time you get a +n[/n] weapon enemy defenses have increased so that you still need to roll an 11 to hit. On the other hand the effect of bonuses on damage rolls is highly visible: a +1 damage bonus noticeably increases damage dealt because the damage total a character inflicts has increased.While the math should be able to take it into account, what is important is when, where, how often and in what situations that the math these bonuses into account. If the math always takes those bonuses into account when determining the base hp, hit bonuses and defenses of monsters then you get a narrow linear scale that is effectively identical to one where those bonuses were never given or taken into account.  If the math still takes into account that level 1-10 characters will have +0 equipment, 11-20 +1 and 21 30 +2, this is only changing scale and the unit of measurement and not really influencing the underlining math. This is like saying 212°F, 100°C, and 373.15°K are different temperatures.This doesn't really do what you think it does. I doesn't change the math and just hides where the bonuses are coming from. I even argued with you about this sort of thing back in March in a topic I made about <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/303269-why-i-dont-like-wealth-level-guidelines.html#post5503114" target="_blank">Wealth by Level guidelines</a>.All they do is minimize the visibility of magical equipments effect on their ability to hit. You could also use those enemies with higher "protection levels" and expect  harder fights that take more out of the characters and in the end give them more xp. What you have proposed here is an idea I have been putting forward since March.Do not forget that characters and monsters get hp and abilities as they level. A 6th level Fighter with normal equipment and a 1st level Fighter armed with +5 equipment may have the same EL but in a fight between the two the 6th level fighter will have an advantage.</blockquote>

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