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<blockquote data-quote="Lord Slaw" data-source="post: 4099610" data-attributes="member: 61165"><p>Yes, generic, unimaginative Fighters are weak and boring. BUT, when a little creativity is put into the field, or an effective prestige class is implemented, Fighters can dominate, as they are meant to do.</p><p></p><p>However, I can't think of any time in recent memory that I have gone with the Roy-style single-class Fighter. And yet, one of my high points in D&D was using a Githyanki Fighter / Dervish / Battle Trickster (with a level or two in Rogue). He played like a Fighter, and for all intents and purposes, was one - but those Dervish abilities and a few movement skill tricks made him one heck of a crazy combatant.</p><p></p><p>We were fighting against a small group of Drow (with class levels), and one of them was mounted on a Huge Giant Wasp. I took a massive sprint up a wall (with <em>longstrider</em> for a little extra distance), shoved off at the very top, and landed squarely on the back of the low-flying Giant Wasp. I then proceeded to beat the hell out of the Drow rider with a Large Greatsword. He tried to defend himself, but those psionics made me pretty difficult to hit, not to mention he was strapped into the saddle too tightly to allow much movement. After wailing on him for a round or two (barely hanging on to the wasp - he just couldn't shake me), I used my gross Strength score to tear him out of the saddle and throw him right off his mount. He was dead when he hit the ground about 80 feet below (he had gone into a climb in an effort to make me lose my balance). I then hacked one of the beast's wings right off, which sent it into a crazy tailspin, and I was flung clear off. Fortunately, I managed to catch a ledge on the way down, resulting in minimal damage and a dislocated shoulder, which I quickly jammed back into place. The wasp crashed to the ground, where it was quickly dispatched by the other players, and I proceeded to Dervish Dance through the remaining enemies. I kept the wasp's stinger as a souvenir.</p><p></p><p>That was, without a doubt, the coolest thing I had ever done. And it's mostly thanks to a high Strength score, good skill points from a decent Intelligence score, a lot of fun feats (like Monkey Grip), and two Skill Tricks. The Dervish abilities didn't even come into play - everything I did could have been done by a lucky Fighter with a lot of creativity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lord Slaw, post: 4099610, member: 61165"] Yes, generic, unimaginative Fighters are weak and boring. BUT, when a little creativity is put into the field, or an effective prestige class is implemented, Fighters can dominate, as they are meant to do. However, I can't think of any time in recent memory that I have gone with the Roy-style single-class Fighter. And yet, one of my high points in D&D was using a Githyanki Fighter / Dervish / Battle Trickster (with a level or two in Rogue). He played like a Fighter, and for all intents and purposes, was one - but those Dervish abilities and a few movement skill tricks made him one heck of a crazy combatant. We were fighting against a small group of Drow (with class levels), and one of them was mounted on a Huge Giant Wasp. I took a massive sprint up a wall (with [I]longstrider[/I] for a little extra distance), shoved off at the very top, and landed squarely on the back of the low-flying Giant Wasp. I then proceeded to beat the hell out of the Drow rider with a Large Greatsword. He tried to defend himself, but those psionics made me pretty difficult to hit, not to mention he was strapped into the saddle too tightly to allow much movement. After wailing on him for a round or two (barely hanging on to the wasp - he just couldn't shake me), I used my gross Strength score to tear him out of the saddle and throw him right off his mount. He was dead when he hit the ground about 80 feet below (he had gone into a climb in an effort to make me lose my balance). I then hacked one of the beast's wings right off, which sent it into a crazy tailspin, and I was flung clear off. Fortunately, I managed to catch a ledge on the way down, resulting in minimal damage and a dislocated shoulder, which I quickly jammed back into place. The wasp crashed to the ground, where it was quickly dispatched by the other players, and I proceeded to Dervish Dance through the remaining enemies. I kept the wasp's stinger as a souvenir. That was, without a doubt, the coolest thing I had ever done. And it's mostly thanks to a high Strength score, good skill points from a decent Intelligence score, a lot of fun feats (like Monkey Grip), and two Skill Tricks. The Dervish abilities didn't even come into play - everything I did could have been done by a lucky Fighter with a lot of creativity. [/QUOTE]
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