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<blockquote data-quote="ConcreteBuddha" data-source="post: 424014" data-attributes="member: 3139">Okay, is it fair to say that every class is powerful at epic levels? (Except for Sorcerers. They got shafted.) Honestly, I don't care about the Ranger after level 20. All I care about is the meat and potatoes Ranger from level 2 to 19. In this range, from personal experience, the Ranger is not as effective in a party against creatures of equal CR. Note how I say, &quot;in a party,&quot; since this is the only way to judge the effectiveness of a class.The spell list is ineffective in a party, as the Ranger does not exist in a vacuum. The spells the Ranger gets are ineffective at the level he receives them, as somebody else has inevitably had access to those spells five levels earlier.And favored enemy, I agree, is a neat ability. However, from level 2 to 19, having 3 levels of Rogue for the 2d6 sneak attack is oftentimes more useful and just as effective than having 15 levels of Ranger for a piddly +4, +3, +2, or +1 to damage against specific foes.&nbsp;Since that spell is so balanced, let's give it to all other divine casters as a 1st level spell. I'm sure the PH supports that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Anyway, when you started this thread you specifically stated the &quot;PHB Ranger&quot; as the topic. Hunter's Mercy is not a part of that equation.If you'd like to discuss that spell, I'd like to point you to a feat I made specifically for Fighters. It's called: Kill Anything In One Hit Like it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;A Dire Bear at 15th level? Are you aware that a Dire Bear is CR 7? Your average Pit Fiend (CR 16) will easily blow through the Buffed Dire Bear.&nbsp;Of course it won't be comparable, but does it really need to be? How often are you tracking a single goblin in a blizzard? Do you really need to have +26 to Track something? &nbsp;Right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ConcreteBuddha, post: 424014, member: 3139"] Okay, is it fair to say that [i] every [/i] class is powerful at epic levels? (Except for Sorcerers. They got shafted.) Honestly, I don't care about the Ranger after level 20. All I care about is the meat and potatoes Ranger from level 2 to 19. In this range, from personal experience, the Ranger is not as effective in a party against creatures of equal CR. Note how I say, "in a party," since this is the only way to judge the effectiveness of a class. The spell list is ineffective in a party, as the Ranger does not exist in a vacuum. The spells the Ranger gets are ineffective at the level he receives them, as somebody else has inevitably had access to those spells five levels earlier. And favored enemy, I agree, is a neat ability. However, from level 2 to 19, having 3 levels of Rogue for the 2d6 sneak attack is oftentimes more useful and just as effective than having 15 levels of Ranger for a piddly +4, +3, +2, or +1 to damage against specific foes. [B] [/B] Since that spell is so balanced, let's give it to all other divine casters as a 1st level spell. I'm sure the PH supports that. ;) Anyway, when you started this thread you specifically stated the "PHB Ranger" as the topic. Hunter's Mercy is not a part of that equation. If you'd like to discuss that spell, I'd like to point you to a feat I made specifically for Fighters. It's called: [B] Kill Anything In One Hit [/B] Like it? :) [B] [/B] A Dire Bear at 15th level? Are you aware that a Dire Bear is CR 7? Your average Pit Fiend (CR 16) will easily blow through the Buffed Dire Bear. [B] [/B] Of course it won't be comparable, but does it really need to be? How often are you tracking a single goblin in a blizzard? Do you really need to have +26 to Track something? [B] [/B] Right. [/QUOTE]

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