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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 425926" data-attributes="member: 1622">The problem, h4xor, is that you're trying to compare each of the ranger's facets to the class that does them best.&nbsp; Yes, fighters beat out rangers at fighting, they beat out everyone at fighting.&nbsp; Just as rogues beat out everyone at skills and benefitting from them.&nbsp; Just like druids benefit from naturey spells.&nbsp; The ranger is 1/2 fighter 3/8 rogue and 1/8 druid.&nbsp; And that's not too bad.&nbsp; In general I think that makes a ranger about 7/8 as good as any of the &quot;pure&quot; classes, since the 1/8 druid really isn't helping out that much, but that doesn't include the ranger specific bonuses (minor as they may be).&nbsp; So on the whole, perhaps rangers are on level ground with the rest of the classes (except clerics).I think the problem with the ranger is that it doesn't have enough style on its own.&nbsp; Paladins have ridiculous saves, special mounts, lay on hands, detect evil, and smite evil.&nbsp; That's a lot of style.&nbsp; Rangers have... favored enemies and a couple virtual feats.&nbsp; That's not a lot of style.&nbsp; I think they're balanced, because they have really good skills, they're just a little boring compared to paladins and bards (not that bards are breaking the balance tree here either).-The Souljourner</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 425926, member: 1622"] The problem, h4xor, is that you're trying to compare each of the ranger's facets to the class that does them best. Yes, fighters beat out rangers at fighting, they beat out everyone at fighting. Just as rogues beat out everyone at skills and benefitting from them. Just like druids benefit from naturey spells. The ranger is 1/2 fighter 3/8 rogue and 1/8 druid. And that's not too bad. In general I think that makes a ranger about 7/8 as good as any of the "pure" classes, since the 1/8 druid really isn't helping out that much, but that doesn't include the ranger specific bonuses (minor as they may be). So on the whole, perhaps rangers are on level ground with the rest of the classes (except clerics). I think the problem with the ranger is that it doesn't have enough style on its own. Paladins have ridiculous saves, special mounts, lay on hands, detect evil, and smite evil. That's a lot of style. Rangers have... favored enemies and a couple virtual feats. That's not a lot of style. I think they're balanced, because they have really good skills, they're just a little boring compared to paladins and bards (not that bards are breaking the balance tree here either). -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]

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