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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kibbitz" data-source="post: 426280" data-attributes="member: 3723">a) The TWF Chain. Not in 1E, was brought in for 2E. Now we have it in 3E. Not a huge problem, but why is it an essential part of being a Ranger? Why do all Rangers get to have this chain? Sorry, I don't see how all Rangers would have a talent for this, nor how being in touch with surroundings endow Rangers with such abilities.They're virtual feats that EVERY Ranger has. That is plenty signature, IMO.So why can ALL rangers dual-wield?b) Why have the feats as virtual? These are not things which you lose the ability to use just by donning heavier armour.c) A common argument used when commenting about Rangers NOT using TWF is that they are immaterial, see quotes above for examples. If so, you should have no argument if the TWF feats were to be spread out? Say TWF at Lvl 1, Ambidexterity at 5 or so?d) Since the TWF isn't really a necessity, how unbalancing would it be to allow players to swap this virtual feat chain for another? Say one of those 3-feat Archery chains?e) Regarding spells, and that bit about out-Stealthing rogues, when do you actually get Forestfold as a spell? And Hunter's Mercy?Using examples with material drawn from supplements isn't very useful because not everyone will be using them in a standard D&D game, whether it's because they lack the supplements or whether because they prefer not to use those specific spells. Better to consider things in terms of core, namely the PHB, DMG and MM, IMO.Anyway, unless Forestfold is extremely low-level and works everywhere, you won't be getting that as an advantage for a while, so that is useful for a look at higher level Rangers vs Rogues. BTW, would Forestfold stack with Boots and Cloaks of Elvenkind? Would definitely be fearsome <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Kai Lord, With regards to Favoured Enemy, you're gaining them at the rate of what? +1 every four levels? In time, yes, you'll cover most usual enemies. However, you must admit that it won't be as reliable as WS unless you're facing a lot of those opponents for which it applies to (which would require extreme foresight on your part, or extreme cooperation from your DM). It's not as bad as it sounds (unless the DM is out to get you, or unless you pick a relatively rare monster group) but it's certainly not as great as you make it out to be, IMO.I certainly don't think Rangers are weak, but I do think some tweaks would be good.</blockquote>

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