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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 426292" data-attributes="member: 114">In a more contributory note to the actual topic, I think that Gaiden has hit the nail on the head with one problem with the ranger class.There is no goodies at 2nd level.All the other classes (with the possible exception of the Sorcerer, with his 1 new cantrip) have a compelling benefit to taking that 2nd level - evasion, uncanny dodge, feat, aura of courage etc. etc. The Ranger doesn't have anything specially compelling. It would probably be nice to have had an additional special ability at 2nd level (not just spread out the current abilities).An additional beef that I have (which has also been mentioned) is that the spell list is uninspiring. The nearest point of comparison is the paladin, who has a kickin' spell list, with several unique spells of his own. The Ranger would, IMO, have been better served with some additional unique spells (for instance a holy-sword equivalent spell that gave their weapon a bane property against favoured enemies is an obvious missed opportunity). I also think that they would have been better served by knowing personal buffing spells rather than spells to &quot;buff&quot; their animal companions.I'm currently playing a ranger which, with my DM's permission, uses the Paladin spell list rather than the Ranger list. I'm having great fun with him.Cheers</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 426292, member: 114"] In a more contributory note to the actual topic, I think that Gaiden has hit the nail on the head with one problem with the ranger class. There is no goodies at 2nd level. All the other classes (with the possible exception of the Sorcerer, with his 1 new cantrip) have a compelling benefit to taking that 2nd level - evasion, uncanny dodge, feat, aura of courage etc. etc. The Ranger doesn't have anything specially compelling. It would probably be nice to have had an additional special ability at 2nd level (not just spread out the current abilities). An additional beef that I have (which has also been mentioned) is that the spell list is uninspiring. The nearest point of comparison is the paladin, who has a kickin' spell list, with several unique spells of his own. The Ranger would, IMO, have been better served with some additional unique spells (for instance a holy-sword equivalent spell that gave their weapon a bane property against favoured enemies is an obvious missed opportunity). I also think that they would have been better served by knowing personal buffing spells rather than spells to "buff" their animal companions. I'm currently playing a ranger which, with my DM's permission, uses the Paladin spell list rather than the Ranger list. I'm having great fun with him. Cheers [/QUOTE]

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