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What's wrong with the single-classed Ranger?
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<blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 427542" data-attributes="member: 8158"><p>To answer the question "why don't people like the ranger in the 3e PHB", you have to keep in mind, a lot of people disliked the 2e ranger, and they were hoping for an overhaul with 3e.</p><p></p><p>Like many of the class-balance issues that people have with 3e, it's due to WotC's attempts to ensure 3e's acceptance by the D&D community by maintaining "backwards compatability" with 2e. So they also kept the rather contrived two-weapon-style feature, as well gave the ranger mediocre access to druid spells, even though the former was made unnecessary due to 3e's feat system, and the latter was made pointless due to the new multi-classing system (which would make it possible for any class mediocre access to druid spells).</p><p></p><p>Personally, I thought the concept of "favored terrain" was a great way to go. From there, the ranger gets a base special ability and a list of bonus feats appropriate to the terrain that he can select every three or four levels. You could then take the Favored Enemy ability, and turn it into a class-exclusive feat, similar to Weapon Specialization, and put in the ranger's list of bonus feats.</p><p></p><p>Do that, give the ranger 6 skill points per level and a good Reflex save, and he's good to go. I actually wrote this up as a homebrew class, so if anyone wants to see it, lemme know.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Felon, post: 427542, member: 8158"] To answer the question "why don't people like the ranger in the 3e PHB", you have to keep in mind, a lot of people disliked the 2e ranger, and they were hoping for an overhaul with 3e. Like many of the class-balance issues that people have with 3e, it's due to WotC's attempts to ensure 3e's acceptance by the D&D community by maintaining "backwards compatability" with 2e. So they also kept the rather contrived two-weapon-style feature, as well gave the ranger mediocre access to druid spells, even though the former was made unnecessary due to 3e's feat system, and the latter was made pointless due to the new multi-classing system (which would make it possible for any class mediocre access to druid spells). Personally, I thought the concept of "favored terrain" was a great way to go. From there, the ranger gets a base special ability and a list of bonus feats appropriate to the terrain that he can select every three or four levels. You could then take the Favored Enemy ability, and turn it into a class-exclusive feat, similar to Weapon Specialization, and put in the ranger's list of bonus feats. Do that, give the ranger 6 skill points per level and a good Reflex save, and he's good to go. I actually wrote this up as a homebrew class, so if anyone wants to see it, lemme know. [/QUOTE]
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