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<blockquote data-quote="Wyckedemus" data-source="post: 528966" data-attributes="member: 1079"><p><strong>Chain Shirts and the Mithral Problem</strong></p><p></p><p>My problem with Chain shirts, Breastplates, and Full plate is the super cheap price of MITHRAL. Now Mithral is supposed to be good stuff...just about the BEST stuff, and I don't think it should be lessened in power, but the bang for the buck...?</p><p></p><p>1,100gp for a mithral chain shirt? That's sick!</p><p></p><p>The price suggests that it is common enough that someone with the money could buy it. This kind of money isn't that hard to get in a fantasy game. All it takes is to find a +1 weapon that no one can use properly or a weak magic item that costs about 2,000gp and the super special mithral chain shirt is buyable! (I'm even assuming selling the unwanted item for half price.)</p><p></p><p>The statistics that mithral provides is by far more valuable than a magical version of the armor. AND it costs less by about 150gp. (Mithral is 1,100gp 'cause it is already MW... Magical chain shirt requires MW quality to enchant and is therefore 1,250gp)</p><p></p><p>What would you choose? +1 mithral chain shirt for 2,100gp or a +2 steel chain shirt for 4,250gp?</p><p></p><p>That last question proves my point. There's no contest.</p><p></p><p>I believe that the prices for these (supposedly rare and highly prized) metals such as mithral and adamantine should be either be raised or have their mechanic altered.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps the price raise could be one step up from what it currently is. The price for Medium armor would become the price for Light, the price for Heavy would be the price for Medium, and the price of Heavy would be even higher.</p><p></p><p>Perhaps a mechanic change could look like this...Mithral (or adamantine) when crafted into armor acts as an enhancement already when it is first crafted. Therefore, to enhance a Mithral Chain Shirt further with magic, you would need to pay the price of a +2 armor to make it a magical +1. This hearkens back to an archaic idea that elven chainmail was so good it couldn't be enchanted. But now it would just be just harder. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>My complaint is that if you make something so inexpensive that everyone wants it, then it is too cheap. At least make it a choice that people have to consider before commiting to. Every armored PC I know (including mine) wears mithral armor. Mainly because it is so cheap for the benefit. </p><p></p><p>-Sam E.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Wyckedemus, post: 528966, member: 1079"] [b]Chain Shirts and the Mithral Problem[/b] My problem with Chain shirts, Breastplates, and Full plate is the super cheap price of MITHRAL. Now Mithral is supposed to be good stuff...just about the BEST stuff, and I don't think it should be lessened in power, but the bang for the buck...? 1,100gp for a mithral chain shirt? That's sick! The price suggests that it is common enough that someone with the money could buy it. This kind of money isn't that hard to get in a fantasy game. All it takes is to find a +1 weapon that no one can use properly or a weak magic item that costs about 2,000gp and the super special mithral chain shirt is buyable! (I'm even assuming selling the unwanted item for half price.) The statistics that mithral provides is by far more valuable than a magical version of the armor. AND it costs less by about 150gp. (Mithral is 1,100gp 'cause it is already MW... Magical chain shirt requires MW quality to enchant and is therefore 1,250gp) What would you choose? +1 mithral chain shirt for 2,100gp or a +2 steel chain shirt for 4,250gp? That last question proves my point. There's no contest. I believe that the prices for these (supposedly rare and highly prized) metals such as mithral and adamantine should be either be raised or have their mechanic altered. Perhaps the price raise could be one step up from what it currently is. The price for Medium armor would become the price for Light, the price for Heavy would be the price for Medium, and the price of Heavy would be even higher. Perhaps a mechanic change could look like this...Mithral (or adamantine) when crafted into armor acts as an enhancement already when it is first crafted. Therefore, to enhance a Mithral Chain Shirt further with magic, you would need to pay the price of a +2 armor to make it a magical +1. This hearkens back to an archaic idea that elven chainmail was so good it couldn't be enchanted. But now it would just be just harder. :) My complaint is that if you make something so inexpensive that everyone wants it, then it is too cheap. At least make it a choice that people have to consider before commiting to. Every armored PC I know (including mine) wears mithral armor. Mainly because it is so cheap for the benefit. -Sam E. [/QUOTE]
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