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<blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8321972" data-attributes="member: 7026617">There's a difference, however, between &quot;These are genre conventions that you just can't push on much&quot; and &quot;This worked out this way because the author wanted it to, not because of any obvious established traits of the characters&quot;.&nbsp; The latter often requires characters to do things they do at no or few other times in their careers, or alternatively when opposition is involved, for said opposition to suddenly lose a great degree of acumen that they normally exhibit.Its one thing for a weaker character to take advantage of Juggernaut's psychological issues to make him do something stupid; Juggernaut has been like that from day one.&nbsp; Its another thing when its done against opponents who otherwise exhibit combat and other savvyness that suddenly flees because the hero needs to be the one to win this fight.Over and above my feeling that media change what I expect from them, some things don't deserve porting over because those things aren't even virtues in the medium they're used in.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Thomas Shey, post: 8321972, member: 7026617"] There's a difference, however, between "These are genre conventions that you just can't push on much" and "This worked out this way because the author wanted it to, not because of any obvious established traits of the characters". The latter often requires characters to do things they do at no or few other times in their careers, or alternatively when opposition is involved, for said opposition to suddenly lose a great degree of acumen that they normally exhibit. Its one thing for a weaker character to take advantage of Juggernaut's psychological issues to make him do something stupid; Juggernaut has been like that from day one. Its another thing when its done against opponents who otherwise exhibit combat and other savvyness that suddenly flees because the hero needs to be the one to win this fight. Over and above my feeling that media change what I expect from them, some things don't deserve porting over because those things aren't even virtues in the medium they're used in. [/QUOTE]

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